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STATE OF ALABAMA X
COUNTY OF BALDWIN X
The City Council, City of Fairhope, met in regular session at
5:30 p.m., Fairhope Municipal Complex Council Chamber,
161 North Section Street, Fairhope, Alabama 36532, on
Monday, 14 July 2008.
Present were Council President Robert C. Gentle, Councilmembers: Debbie
W. Quinn, Daniel Stankoski, Cecil Christenberry, and Michael A. Ford, Mayor
Timothy M. Kant, City Attorney Marion E. Wynne, and City Clerk Lisa A. Hanks.
There being a quorum present, Council President Gentle called the meeting to
order. The invocation was given by Reverend Joseph Bullington, pastor of Fairhope
United Methodist Church and the Pledge of Allegiance was recited. Councilmember
Stankoski moved to approve minutes of the June 23, 2008, regular meeting.
Seconded by Councilmember Ford, motion passed by the following voice vote: AYE
— Stankoski, Christenberry, Ford, and Gentle. NAY — none. ABSTAIN - Quinn.
Sherry Sullivan made the following announcements:
• Fourth of July Celebration and Fire Works — The City of Fairhope thanked the
Fairhope Volunteer Fire Department for all of their hard work.
• The Fairhope Outdoor Market last day will be Thursday evening, July 17th,
from 4:00 p.m. to 6:00 p.m., Downtown Fairhope on Church Street.
Mayor's Comments and Staff Reports:
• Nancy Milford, City Planner, addressed the City Council and discussed the
options for Scenic Highway 98 and Nelson Road. Ms. Milford asked for a
recommendation from the City Council as to whether to pursue grants to
purchase the land from David Ryan for a City Park. The following is the
letter from Ms. Milford explaining the three possible grants:
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June 25, 2008�
City of Fairhope
City Council
Fairhope, AL 36533
City Council Members:
k C.M.C. David Ryan has property located at the comer of Scenic Highway 98 and
i CPA Nelson Road. He has offered to sell his property to the City of Fairhope for
the purposes of a City Park.
Mr. Ryan has expressed his willingness to sell this site to the City of Fairhope
with the assurances the site will be 1) a perpetually maintained City park.
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C.M.O. There possibility that three grants can be solicited for potential funding for the
purchase and development of the site as a park. These grants are as follows:
CMO ♦ Land, Water, Conservation Fund: 50150 match; Maximum $100,000; can
k.c.M.o. be used for acquisition and development, September 2, 2008 final submittal
^► date
♦ Recreational Trails Program: 80/20 match, Maximum $125,000, can be
used for acquisition and development, September 2, 2008 final submittal date.
;� ♦ 306A Public Access Improvement Grant Application for public access
!" work: 50/50 Match; Maximum $25,000.
To use the above -listed grants for property acquisition, the property could not
w Mac j ; be purchased prior to the Grant Awards. The most likely option would be for
Staff to pursue these grants in phases and explore the best use of these grants
on this particular site. The City Council could also utilize the Park and
*�1•.
Recreation Impact Fee.
Staff would like to know if this is a direction the Council would like to pursue.
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Sincerely,
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Nancy Milford
Planner
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Council President Gentle asked if we could apply for all three grants. Ms.
Milford replied it is possible, but the Alabama Department of Economic and
Community Affairs (ADECA) grants should be prepared in phases. Mayor
Kant stated a study was done regarding protecting our wetlands and this
possible purchase would fall into this privy. Councilmember Ford asked;
when will we know if we have the grant. Ms. Milford replied that the money
is not as predictable as before. It used to be only one month and now it is
around six months. Councilmember Christenberry asked if Mr. Ryan was
willing to work with us. Mr. Ryan replied yes. Council President said; "I
think it is a good idea to move forward." Councilmember Quinn stated she
will be meeting with ADECA and will find out when monies will be available.
Council President Gentle introduced in writing Ordinance No. 1366, an
ordinance setting compensation for absentee election manager. In order to take
immediate action, Councilmember Quinn moved for immediate consideration.
Seconded by Councilmember Stankoski, motion for immediate consideration passed
unanimously by the following votes: AYE - Quinn, Stankoski, Christenberry, Ford
and Gentle. NAY - none. Councilmember Quinn then moved for final adoption of
Ordinance No. 1366. Seconded by Councilmember Christenberry, motion for final
adoption passed unanimously by the following votes: AYE - Quinn, Stankoski,
Christenberry, Ford and Gentle. NAY - none.
Councilmember Ford introduced in writing, and moved for the
adoption of the following resolution, a resolution to present an application to the
Alabama Department of Transportation (ALDOT) for the Transportation
Enhancement (TE) Projects for FY2009 for grant assistance with the Greeno Road
Side Improvements. Seconded by Councilmember Quinn, motion passed by the
following votes: AYE — Quinn, Stankoski, Ford, and Gentle. Councilmember
Christenberry recused himself.
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RESOLUTION NO. 1453-08
WHEREAS, The City of Fairhope proposes to construct sidewalks along Greeno
Road (U.S. Highway 98) to be used for pedestrian traffic adjacent to a main
thoroughfare through the City of Fairhope. The project will begin near the
intersection of U. S. 98 and Southland Boulevard, run north from a residential area
and connecting Fairhope High School into the most commercially driven area of the
city, and terminating at the Spring Run Road intersection. The sidewalk will be
constructed along the east side of Greeno and will run parallel with the road inside
State right -of —way; and
WHEREAS, The City of Fairhope intends to present an application to the Alabama
Department of Transportation (ALDOT) for the Transportation Enhancement (TE)
Projects for FY 2009 for grant assistance on the Greeno Road Side Improvements;
and
WHEREAS, said programs are limited to funding a maximum of eighty percent
(80%) of the proposed project costs, which are estimated at $450,000.00 which will
be use used to develop the land consisting of a six (6) foot sidewalk which will serve
as an organizational transportation control device; and
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED that the City of Fairhope holds in
reserve twenty percent (20%) of the proposed projected cost for the purpose of
matching the Transportation Enhancement (TE) Projects for FY 2009 grant
assistance; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that in the event a grant is awarded, the City of
Fairhope understands that it will sign assurances to comply with all of the applicable
Federal and State laws, rules and regulations.
DULY ADOPTED THIS 14TH DAY OF JULY, 2008.
ATTEST:
Lisa A. nks, City Clerk
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Councilmember Stankoski introduced in writing, and moved for the adoption
of the following resolution, a resolution appointing Election Officers for Election Day
26 August 2008, and Run-off Election Day 7 October 2008, if necessary.
Seconded by Councilmember Christenberry, motion passed unanimously by voice
vote.
RESOLUTION NO. 1454-08
WHEREAS, a Regular Municipal Election has been called to be held on 26 August 2008, and a Run-
off Election, to be held if necessary, on 7 October 2008; and,
WHEREAS, Section 11-46-27 of the Alabama Code of 1975, as amended, provides, in part, that the
Municipal Governing Body, not less than 15 days before the holding of any Municipal Election;
NOW, THEREFORE;
BE IT RESOLVED, by the City Council of the City of Fairhope, Alabama that the election Officers
for said elections shall be as follow:
Chief Inspector:
(1)
Vera Culver, 567 Jan Drive
Inspector/Provisional Officer:
(1)
Thomas Dyer, 124 Oakwood Avenue
Chief Clerk:
(1)
Diane Blaschak, 405 Jasmine Street
Administrative Clerks:
(1)
Betty L. (Ann) Garner, 652 Bon Secour Street
(2)
Diane Hartley, 454 Ivy Circle
Registration &
Poll List Clerks:
(1)
Grace Nelson, 8 Sumac Circle
(2)
Rose Dunn, 117 Spring Drive
(3)
Christa Pindzig, 19023 Quail Creek Drive
(4)
Stephenie Gasbarro, 322 Clubhouse Drive
(5)
Margie Robinson, 100 Berglin Street
(6)
Dot McWhite, 28 Hoffren Drive
(7)
Elaine Thompson, 455 Jan Drive
(8)
Mildred Rogers, I I I Pinetop Circle
(9)
Carol Long, 483 Dogwood Avenue
(10)
Beverly Stapleton, 9814 St. Hwy 104
(11)
Cynthia Wheeler, 20725 Lowry Drive
(12)
Gayle Duane Wheeler, 20725 Lowry Drive
Clerks Issuing Ballots:
(1)
Charles Robinson, 455 Ivy Circle
(2)
Marline Robinson, 455 Ivy Circle
(3)
Pat Cunningham, 13 Winterhaven Ct.
(4)
Susan McKee, 211 Park Drive
(5)
Norma Tidwell, P. O. Box 880 (207 S. Mobile
St., #108)
(6)
Emma Taake, 366 Wisteria Street
(7)
Nancy Anderson, 617 Morphy Avenue
(8)
Margaret Barnes, 128 Cedar Point
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Inactive List: (1) Debbie Mansmann, 207 Lee Street
(2) Joanne Brown, 64 S. Ingleside Street
Machine Attendants: (1) Gerald Devuyst, 13 Hoffren Drive
(2) Terril G. Hicks, 104 Clubhouse Drive
(3) Andrew J. Blaschak, 405 Jasmine Avenue
AutoMARK : (1) Douglas Mansmann, 207 Lee Street
(For Handicap)
Relief & Voting (1)
Joyce Smith, 116 Vivian Loop
Table Clerks: (2)
Wesley Stapleton, 9814 State Highway 104
(3)
Dorothy South, 1 Troyer Court
(4)
Perry Hartley, 454 Ivy Circle
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Chief Inspector shall be compensated $100.00 for each
Election and for each Run-off Election, if necessary, and other Election Officers shall be compensated
$75.00 for each Election, and for each Run-off Election, if necessary.
ADOPTED THIS 14TH DAY OF JULY, 2008.
Attest:
Li a._1ft,,_arfks,'CAy Clerk
Jim Horner, Chairman of the Fairhope Environmental Advisory Board
(FEAB), addressed the City Council and gave a brief review of the projects being
worked on:
➢ Winn Dixie Detention Pond - clean up
➢ Gullies — enhance and protect
➢ Parklands
➢ Bio-Diesel
➢ Stormwater Authority
➢ Energy Audits
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Lisa Adams also addressed the City Council and presented the Environmental
Mission Statement: "The City of Fairhope is committed to a sustainable future by
promoting environmentally sound conservation, preservation and restoration practices
that maintain and improve the ecological integrity of the Fairhope community."
Councilmember Quinn stated the mission statement is a vast umbrella for the City.
Mayor Kant told the City Council that the mission statement the FEAB wants to add
on to was created by the city managers for the annual budget. Council President
Gentle told the FEAB that the City Council will take it under advisement.
Councilmember Stankoski asked; how much will it cost to correct the Winn Dixie
Detention Pond. Ken Eslava, Assistant Public Works Director, replied between two
hundred thousand and three hundred thousand.
Bobby and Debra Green addressed the City Council regarding the Greeno
Road Median Project and Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc. Mrs. Green
gave letters from the medical community to Council President Gentle. The following
letters from Dr. Hermecz and Dr. Dearing were requested by Mrs. Green to be
included in the minutes:
TO: Mayor Tim Kant
The Fairhope City Council
FROM: Vernon L. Hermecz, M.D.
RE: Greeno Road obstacles
DATE: July 13, 2008
As an Emergency Room Physician with 30 years of experience, I have seen the results of multiple types of injury
and the pain that it causes to both patients and their loved ones. Some health issues come by no fault of their own.
Others can be directly related to neglecting their bodies, or injuries can come at the hands of others. There is an
old adage that says that prevention is the best medicine. Sadly, the City of Fairhope is not only neglecting to
prevent potential serious injury, it is actually inviting it in the front door.
The planting of trees in most cases is a noble cause and environmentally wise. However, the insertion of trees in
the middle of Greeno Road is absolutely and completely counter to all rules of safety. Vehicles traveling at even
moderate speeds run the risk of collision, and passengers are substantially more liable to experience serious bodily
harm if such an impact should occur. Considering the frequency of rainfall in this area, the increase in traffic on
Highway 98 in recent years, and the addition of more businesses on the north corridor into the city this plan needs
to be reconsidered. There are already enough accidents, the victims of which come into our Emergency Room for
care. Some of these end in tragedy. Many a tree has been removed from roadways all across the country in order
to remove dangerous obstacles from the path of automobiles. In Fairhope, we have made a conscious choice to
actually add these dangers to one of the busiest roads in Baldwin County, a decision that should be repealed
immediately.
The patients I see in the Emergency Room with injuries resulting from car accidents are frequently related to
alcohol or illicit substances while traveling at high rates of speed. The trees will not slow these people down. The
average driver traveling at ten or fifteen mph over the speed limit is not the problem. Whether drivers are
following the posted speed limits or not, hitting a tree could increase the likelihood of serious injury. Most of the
accident victims I see are from situation where people have stopped in the roadway at lights or to make turns
and are struck from behind. This planting actually limits the space where drivers can move to make
their turns or avoid a collision.
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In addition to the obstacles these trees will create for the average traveler, the problem is exponentially increased
for large vehicles, particularly emergency vehicles such as ambulances and fire trucks which must maneuver
around cars that pull to the sides of the road in order to allow them to pass. This serious situation already exists on
North Section Street with the center tree plantings. And for bicyclists? The trees will put a squeeze on the road
space much like the misguided addition of flower beds jutting into the downtown streets forcing bicyclists to veer
into the traffic lanes.
As a native of Fairhope, it is a pleasure to see the City make an effort at beautification. But the taxpayers have
enough flowers to water and replant already. The extra cost of this "beautification project' is objectionable. The
idea of explaining it as a forced method of speed reduction is ill-advised and foolish and will ultimately be
ineffective. Fairhope is beautiful as it is, and needs no more flower beds, nor do the taxpayers. The benefit of this
tree project is doubtful at best, exposes the citizens to needless danger and the City to needless liability.
From: Green Nurseries 251-928-8459 Data: 7/21/2008 Time: 04:57 pm Page: 1 of 1
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Mr. vincent caiamettl
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1701 1-65 west.
Service Road North,
Mobil-, Alsbamn 36618
Doan W. Cklhvwtti,
I have bean asked by multiple numbers of tha medical staff at Thomas Hospital to voice
our concern over the changes happening on South Gtawo Road hate in Paidwpa They
am in the poem that you well brew of taking away a toiddla lam that sruta used a tllta
lsae to turn it into a median to plug -, I . while, we appreciate bow nice this would
look. vie have significant concerns this would limit the aooase of ambulance or
anmgency voiicles to Thomas Hospital in timely fashion. There is aiynifiant amount of
evidence to suggest acute trauma and am" myocardial infamdons needed to be dealt
with in a limely fashion with hopes of improving the patisnfs survival and outcome.
Hopefully, some conaidesations to be, given to our concerns before We proied procesde.
If any additional diseosoaos are aeeds.d or information is needed. plane do not heeatate
to Gouts= mm You can reach me through Thomas Hospital.
Sincerely.
BRIAN DP.ARING. MD
HD 19Y
12476562/2336191/
cc, Timothy Kant. Mayor of Fairbopo
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Mrs. Green said Dr. John Rodriguez Feo requested her to relay the following
comment; indicating he has contacted numerous Councilmembers, City Attorney
Wynne, and others expressing his opposition to the Greeno Road Project.
Mr. Green stated that Green Nurseries has been in business since 1932. He briefly
went over access to the nursery and said from the South access is not possible. Mrs.
Green said she spoke with Gregg Mims, Director of Planning and Volkert &
Associates at the April 30, 2007 meeting and expressed concerns of the access. She
stated they were told there would be opportunities to give their opinions. She
mentioned that the "thank yous" were not for the access, but for the e-mails from Mr.
Mims. Mrs. Green told the City Council that Volkert & Associates and ALDOT said
there were no objections from anyone. Mrs. Green said, "You are putting us out of
business." The following are the documents requested by Mrs. Green to be included
in the minutes:
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July 14, 2008
Honorable Council President
Honorable Council Members:
RE: Greeno Improvements Project
Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc.
Honorable Council:
We own and operate Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc., 415 N. Green Road,
Fairhope, Alabama. The project plan, presented to us on July 11, 2008, and indicated as
the Final Plan, includes the omission of our business access point. Our objections were
stated and submitted in writing. However, we were completely unaware of our access
point omission until May 26, 2008, after this Honorable Council awarded the project bid
to Summitt Industries. Therefore, through this document, we hereby respectfully request
the return of our Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc. access point. The facts and
rationale for same are as follow:
1. In 1995, negotiations, during the widening of Greeno Road, Bobby Green,
Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc., and representatives of
ALDOT, agreed the nature of our agricultural business required a
"Commercial Access" for larger vehicles. This is what ALDOT installed.
ALDOT Contact: Mr. C. A. Robinson, Jr., ALDOT Mobile Division,
Right -of -Way Engineer
2. April 30, 2007, the City of Fairhope presented an informal "Public
Involvement Meeting" regarding the Greeno Road Improvements, held in
the City of Fairhope Council Chambers.
3. We attended this meeting, and were informed through a form letter
forwarded by the City of Fairbope. (Attachment #1)
4. Upon review of the plan, we became aware of the omissions of both our
access points at the Green Nurseries location as well as into our
residential area, Live Oak, had been completely omitted.
S. During this Informational Meeting, we voiced our concerns over the
omission of the access points and submitted them in writing through a
form provided and left with meeting representatives.
6. Greg Mims, and Volkert representatives stated the plan as presented was
only the "initial architectural rendering", there would be alterations, our
concerns would be addressed and considered, and we would be afforded
opportunities for additional input and to attend future meetings.
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Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc.
Access Point/ Greeno Median Improvements
7. On May 3, 2007, a letter including a comment form outlining our specific
concerns regarding the access omissions and expectations of future
meetings was hand delivered to the office of Mr. Gregg Mims. (We have
been informed through a 7/7/08 request for public information there is no
record of these documents). (Attachment #2)
8. We were never made aware of ANY additional opportunities for public
input or to attend meetings.
9. On May 24, 2007, during a Traffic Committee Meeting, the omission to
the access point closure at Live Oak was discussed. With the exception of
April 30, 2007, the access point at Green Nurseries was never discussed or
mentioned in any respect during neither any meetings with the City nor
any other Traffic Committee Meetings until June, 2008, instigated by us.
(This access omission relative to LIVE OAK, in addition to a redesign of
the curb, as suggested by Mr. Mims, served as OPTIONS for
consideration towards our efforts in preserving a residential community
from commercial encroachment.) (Attachment #3).
10. May 26, 2008 it was discovered, without any notification or contact from
Fairhope City Personnel, Volkert Engineering or ALDOT, OUR GREEN
NURSERIES AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN, INC. ACCESS POINT HAD
BEEN COMPLETELY OMITTED. THE DISCOVERY WAS MADE
DURING COUNCIL MEETING DISCUSSIONS AFTER THE BID
WAS AWARDED.
11. May 27, 2008, through July 11, 2008, in attempts to determine exactly
how our access points had been omitted, without our knowledge, Mayor
Kant, Council Members, and ALDOT were contacted through multiple
emails and/or phone calls and/or office visits.
12. Mayor Kant has not replied to a single email nor has he returned eight
telephone calls. After three attempts to see him personally, he has never
been available in his office.
13. May 30, 2008 Debra had a conference call with Gregg Mims and Ken
Eslava. Gregg's "planning" rationale was understood; however, it was
made very clear to both he and Mr. Eslava our business could not operate
without an access as we were a farm entity, inclusive of large equipment,
trucks with trailers and 18 wheeled vehicles. (Attachment #4)
14. An email in annreciation of Mr. Mims time was forwarded; however,
never was it implied we agreed to the loss the loss of the business access.
(Attachment #4).
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Fairhope City Council
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Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc.
Access Point/ Greeno Median Improvements
15. June 2, 2008 Volkert Engineering and ALDOT advised they had
assurances from the City of Fairbope we had absolutely no opposition to
the loss of our access points.
16. June 2, 2008, Nick Amberger, ALDOT Mobile Division, further
elaborated and advised had ALDOT been aware of our opposition and
concerns, they would have been seriously considered and addressed.
ALDOT further advised the access closure was a decision made by the
City of Fairbope and can be returned at their request.
17. Information provided to ALDOT by the City of Fairbope does not
include any documents related to our objections, comments or concerns
over the omission of our access points. (Attachment #5)
18. Information provided ALDOT by Volkert Engineering indicates no
additional closing of the median "after the first meeting", but only
additional openings were added at the request of public or the ALDOT's
9'" division. (Attachment #6).
19. June 9, 2008, we attended a Traffic Committee meeting; we addressed
this issue, without resolution.
20. June 24, 2008, median construction begins. ALDOT/Volkert could not
advise rationale for construction beginning in what appeared to be "mid
section".
21. June 26, 2008, Councilman Stankoski advises July 14, 2008 Council
Agenda placement towards resolution of access loss.
22. July 7, 2008, requested July 14, 2008 Council Agenda Placement and
request for public records/information including how and when any and
all meetings relative to the Greeno Median Project were announced,
advertised or otherwise promoted for public attendance including
documentation for same. (Attachment #7)
23. July 7, 2008, we advised Council President Gentle of agenda placement
request. We further advised we were extremely concerned construction
would continue along our business prior to July 14. Verbal assurances
were given by Mr. Gentle the City would hold off until after the July 14,
2008 Council Meeting.
24. July 89 2008 construction begins in front of Green Nurseries and
Landscape Design. Council President Gentle requested construction to
stop, and move further north. Mayor utilizes executive privilege to
countermand the request.
25. July 11, 2008 City provided information relative to request for public
records/information, including final plan. (Attachment #8).
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Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc.
Access Point/ Greeno Median Improvements
Honorable Council, with all the information and documentation presented and outlined
above, we respectfully request the return of the median access point located at Green
Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc. We further request this document along with all
attachments be made an official part of the minutes of this July 14, 2008 City Council
Meeting. We sincerely thank you for your time and consideration.
Respectfully submitted,
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Bobby Gr n
Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc.
415 N. Greeno Road
Fairhope, Alabama
928-8469
928-9409
Attachments #1 -8
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Debra Green
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ATTACHMENT LIST
AS MADE PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD
GREEN NURSERIES AND LANDSCAPE DESIGN, INC.
GREENO MEDIAN PROJECT
JULY 14, 2008 FAIRHOPE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF FAIRHOPE
GREENO ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
The City of Falrhope will hold a public meeting to gather Input regarding a Greeno Road
Improvement Plan.
The meeting wgl be hold on Monday April 30, 2007. from 6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m., at
the City of Falrhopa Municipal Complaa In the City Council Chambers located at
161 North 8eotlon Strast In palrhope, Alabama.
The meeting will be held in an open house format, with displays and Information
available to discuss planning efforts and answer questions.
After the public meeting on April 30, 2007 comments conceming this project will be
accepted until May 14, 2007. and should be forwarded to:
City of Falrhops Planning Department
553 S. Section Street
P.O. Drawer 429
Falrhope, Alabama 36533
OR:
Submit your comments electronically by sending them W. Emily. irbvtMoofalrhoos.com
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HAND DELIVERY
May 3, 2007
Mr. Gregg Mons
Director of Planning
City of Fairhope
RE: Green Road Improvements
Dear Gregg
Please find attached a second comment form, as we were unable to retain. a copy of the
one left at the meeting. Please include this with the form left Monday.
In addition, although the project may be a good idea along some areas of Greeno, we can
see problems, particularly with regard to our Nursery entrance. We have mixed opinions
about Live Oak, but, as we discussed, it will be impossible to operate the Nursery without
a way in and out.
We thank you for the time you spent with us, Monday. We look forward to discussing
this further.
Sincerely,
04a�
Bobby Green
Debra Green
Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc.
415 N. Greeno Road
415 Maple Street
Fairhope, AL 36532
928-8469
928-9409
Attachment: Greeno Improvements Comment Form
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From: "Ron Ross" <rross@curaspan.com>
To: "Dan Stankoski" < dstankoski0bellsouth. net>
Cc: "Green Bobby"<bobby,green®greennurserles.com>, <deegeegreen@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Traffic Committee Agenda Request
Date: Thursday, June 05, 2008 5:29:56 PM
Dear Mr. Stankoskl,
As Debra stated in the below email, I was at the meeting where the "curb cut" was suggested as a way to
keep Maple/LiveOak from becoming a cut through for the traffic that wishes to find a shorter, faster way to
Greeno. This happens already, often In the late afternoon when Greeno southbound traffic backs up at the
Greeno/Gayfer traffic right, cars cut to the right and fly down Live Oak/Maple only hoping to make the turn
to the right or left at Gayfer faster. In the mornings, 7:30 — B:OOam traffic on Gayfer heading east who get
stuck at light like to cut to the left on Maple and fly up to Live Oak and hope to turn left (Northbound) before
the light turns. The median would eliminate the morning culprits which makes me very happy. The curb cut
would be very much appreciated and would show those of us living in and around all these changes that
the city council/traffic committee does wish to protect our neighborhoods.
Having Just the median will only encourage the southbound traffic to him right onto Live Oak/Maple in order
to beat the longer traffic light at Greeno/Gayfer. it's a perception thing. Your support in saving Maple/Live
Oak from becoming a pass through would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Ron Ross
811 Gayfer Ave.
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From: Ron Ross
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Hey, Dan, and thank you for such a prompt response. Are traffic committee meetings set at
random or are they scheduled? I have periodically looked for scheduled meetings on the City's
web site, could have missed something, but didn't see a schedule. If OK with you, we'll take our
chances on Monday with the understanding we may not get to this item, as the agenda has been
set. Should their not be time, may we be placed on the agenda for the next meeting? Please advise
the time and place of Monday's meeting. (Traffic and Council Monday?)
You are correct in that a right turn only would be created at Live Oak due to the median; we all
agreed to this. However, a curb cut was also discussed (Gregg's suggestion). Ron Ross and Paul
Nix, our neighbors, also attended that meeting and I took notes. Thank you again, Dan, see you
Monday.
Respectfully,
Debra Green
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8 November 2007
On the occasion of its 1 Oe anniversary, the Marietta Johnson School of Organic
Education along with the Marietta Johnson Museum wishes to publicly thank the city
of Fairbope for the untiring support and cooperation it has given to, both the school
and to the museum. With gratitude, we look forward to the city's continued support
and are proud to play an integral part in the efforts that contribute toward making our
community one of unique and special character —an organic, living community in
which we can all be proud.
The school is thriving and enrollment is up. $40,000 was raised for the operating
fund. The endowment fund is in excess of $1,000,000.
Councilmember Stankoski addressed the City Council and gave a report on
the Street Committee's reconsideration of Live Oak and Maple:
• Closing off Live Oak Road from Greeno Road
• Creation of a cul de sac
• Placement of a speed bump on Live Oak or Maple
The following are the minutes from the Street Committee meeting that was held at
4:45 p.m. on November 8, 2007:
Bob Gentle recommended denial of closing off Live Oak at Greeno and Cecil
Christenberry agreed.
Bob Gentle recommended denial of creating a cul de sac and Cecil
Christenberry agreed.
Bobby Green provided a letter dated November 7, 2007 requesting placement
of "No Through Street," "15 MPWSlow Children at Play," or "No Construction
Vehicle Traffic" signs be considered. Jennifer Fidler advised a "No Construction
Vehicle" sign would be placed on Maple.
Jennifer Fidler advised the "greening of Greeno Road" project is on -going. This
project may alleviate some of the traffic concerns as a median will be put on Greeno
Road at Live Oak restricting some flow of traffic to Live Oak. This area will be
referred to City Planning.
After discussion, it was the recommendation of the Committee to request the police
department do a third traffic survey at Live Oak and Maple with emphasis on school
being in session and early morning and afternoon traffic. Further action will depend
on the results of the traffic survey and recommendations of police department.
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To: Mims Gregg <gregg.mlms®cofaIrhope.00m>,
Eslava Ken <Ken.Eslava®cofakhope.com>, Quinn Debbie <debbiequinn0belIsouth.net>, Gentle Bob
<gentlefairhopeobellsouth.net>, Stankoskl Dan <dstankoski®beNsouth.net>, Kant Tim
Cc: <Tim.Kant®cofalrhope.com>, Christenber y Cecil <oldtymefeed®belLsouth.net>,
mikefordrealtycompany <mlkefordreakycompany®msn cam>, Green Bobby
<bobby.green®greennurseries.corn>, Ross Ron <moss4Pairaspan.com>,
Subject: Thank you/median
Date: Friday, May 30, 2008 10*48:07 AM
Gregg: Thanks for returning my call this morning. Thank you, Ken, for your assistance, as well.
I appreciate the Information and the rationale which has led to the decisions regarding limited
access. From your planning perspective, It does make sense. You are making tremendous efforts
towards more public awareness and attempting to get a firm handle on the Implementation of
the comprehensive plan. Quite a hot political Issue, right now. Also, thanks for the "heads up"
about upcoming requests on Greeno. We can only hope the P&Z will accept the Planning
Department's recommendations; however, your initial recommendation for the medical facility
was it did not meet with the plan. Again, one can only hope.
Meanwhile, with regard to Maple Street -and Live Oak, as traffic: will be forced back to the South
upon completion of the median, we would like to proceed with your recommendation of a "curb
cut", discussed during a traffic committee meeting last summer, which would prohibit
southbound Greeno Road traffic, particularly commercial traffic, from cutting through this
residential community. Your Idea will prevent vehicles from traveling through to Gayfer then
back North onto Greeno. Please let us know how and when we can proceed with your
suggestion, as your idea will further lessen access. As you pointed out this morning, commercial
entitles covet access. Limiting as much access as possible will certainly make us feel a bit more
secure In our efforts towards preserving this residential area.
Thanks again for your time and efforts. Look forward to hearing from you. Have a good week-
end.
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stave and it was going to be a pnhWn for a fame operatic- Therdors; NMKNG WAS
CHANGED! Grag2 made urwV polls In sate of the plan, nude the City's position
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the law hlthv at that drat. I sintedY appredate all the tkM and dfofb WarYons
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cocortundy for bait. You have read my emalk. We do haw problems. This Issue needs
Rare- moll— 1 was, indead, very gratshf and truly WNWAatad the time you two spat
dkd *V the mdarn and other Issues. 1 always sand a thank you m anYons who Is
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Braked scow pants. The rationale Is uderstaod; how e—, it made deer
we do not agree our farm ecass part should be dosed. We do not think enyare
Iuly ✓deistalds low dN ctit it will be to cuWLct the day to dey sul vitles of a
arm Operation wittmit eem.. lbw an a pieces of large equipment, trndors,
lace, 1e whaled vehktes and the Mu, supposed to m nipetate in and NA of
the weeny with souse only to the SnrAN It moot possibly be due
safely. Why world access be talent away from seneaw's means of meldrig a
IMryi V% deem this an owerslptt in Yota pla in0. as peln, we truly do not
beBeve you udarotard the hm%Np you will create uder the arrrent pan. We
have been advised the .ult—t- will begin today. Peas. sibw our rats to
rennin. I .Bl ance again -past a r.brn ph" call, 928A409 or 583-0471.
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF FAIRHOPE
GREENO ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
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AC�y 7, 2008
''Attachment to Request for Public Records
Submitted by Bobby and Debra Green
415 N. Greeno Road/415 Maple Street
Fairhope, Alabama 36532
(office) 251-928-8469, (home) 251-928-9409, (cell) 583-8473, 583-0471
To Whom It May Concern:
Please accept this attachment as a permanent part of the official form required by the City
of Fairhope for the request of public records and information.
The information rearrested as outlined below, is relative to the U. S. Hiehwav
98/Greeno Road Median Proiect We sincerely appreciate the information be
nrovided prior to July 14, 2008.
Please advise if any additional information is required in order to process the request. We
most sincerely appreciate your kind, prompt assistance.
Respectfully Submitted,
Bobby Green Debra Green
INFORMATION REQUESTED
1. Please provide a copy of the documentation/form, provided during the April 30, 2007
"Public Involvement Meeting", filled out and submitted by Bobby and Debra Green
to the City of Fairhope Planning Department relative to the concerns and opposition
to the closure of the Green Nurseries and Landscape Design U.S. Highway 98/Greeno
Road business access.
2. When and by whom were members of ALDOT and/or Volkert Engineering advised
the owner of Green Nurseries and Landscape Design, Inc., had no objection or
opposition to the closure of the main U.S. Highway 98 business access point? (Not
Live Oak). Who at ALDOTNolkertwere advised?
3. Other than the initial "Public Involvement Meeting" held April 30, 2007, please
advise how and when any and all subsequent meetings related to the Greeno Median
Project were announced, advertised or otherwise promoted for public attendance.
4. Please provide documentation relative to #3.
5. Other than the initial "Public Involvement Meeting" held April 30, 2007, please
advise if any members of the General Public attended any subsequent meetings
related to the Greeno Median Project.
6. Please advise how members of the General Public were informed of #5.
7. Please advise names of any members of the General Public in attendance with regard
to #5.
8. Please advise of those in attendance with regard to #5.
9. In accordance with ALDOT Policies and Guidelines, under which project category
does the Greeno Median Project fall: Minimal, Minor, Moderate, Major?
10. Please provide documentation relative to #9.
11. When was the final Greeno Median Plan approved and signed by ALDOT?
12. Please provide documentation to #11.
13. Please provide documentation to relative to the role of ALDOT regarding any
changes/alterations to the final approved Greeno Median Project plan_
14. When and who determined where construction for the Greeno Median project would
begin?
15. With regard to #14, when and who at ALDOT gave approval?
16. With regard to #15, please provide documentation.
17. Please explain the rationale for #14.
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To: Gregg Mims
Page I of 1
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From: deegeegreen9bellsouth.net
To: "Mims, Gregg' <gregg.m1ms0cofairhope.com>,
Cc: Usa.Hanks®CoFairhope.com, "Christenberry, Cecil" <oldtymefeed0belisouth.net>, "Green, Bobby'
<bob by.green®g reennu rseries.com>,
Subject: Public Info Request
Date: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 9:31:58 PM
Gregg: Thank you for advising you were working on my list. I had emalied you the partial
request last week prior to the submitting the official request yesterday. As busy as you are In
addition to the holiday, never the less, you are always very good about responding. I have two
other Items I totally forgot to place on my request form. I am coping this to Lisa, as work, this
week, will not allow me to go to City Hall prior to closing. I can fax the request for the additional
Items, If necessary. Hopefully this will suffice; however, please advise.
1. A copy of the FINAL approved Greeno Median Plan
2. Documentation of advertisement of the April 30, 2007 Public Informational Meeting and any
public announcements or advertisements made prior to April 30, 2007.
Again, my apologies. As you are aware, this information Is necessary for the July 14, 2008
Council Meeting. Again, please advise if I must make this request in an official capacity. As
always, your kind assistance Is appreciated.
Sincerely,
Debra Green
Attachment 1: Pub rec req 6reeno Me lan.doc (appltcation/msword)
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Response for Public Records Request from Debra Green r1
No record of such document.
2. No document requested, no response required.
No document requested, no response required.
' 4. Meetings are held in accordance with The Alabama Open Meetings Act 2005-40
Aq The City also uses the City's Website, e-mail, newspapers, radio stations and have
copies available for pick-up.
�h See Attached List of corresponding City Council and Street Committee Dates.
5. No document requested, no response required.
6. No document requested, no response required.
7. No document requested, no response required.
8. No document requested, no response required.
.,9. No document requested, no response required. — Refer to ALDOT
0. No document requested, no response required. — Refer to ALDOT.
11. No document requested, no response required.
12. See attached ALDOT Letter.
13, See attached ALDOT Letter addressed by Number 12.
14. City Council on May 27, 2008
15. No document requested, no response required.
16. See attached ALDOT Letter addressed by Number 12.
17. No document requested, no response required.
18. See Attached set of Construction Plans.
19. See Attached Public Meeting Notice.
City Council, Street Committee and Planning Commission dates
relative to Greeno Road Median Project
January 31, 2002
February 4, 2002
February 13, 2002
December 2, 2002
December 23, 2002
July 28, 2003
September 22, 2003
February 20, 2006
April 30, 2007
May 24, 2007
May 31, 2007
June 11, 2007
July 9, 2007
September 10, 2007
September 24, 2007
November 8, 2007
December 10, 2007
May 27, 2008
June 9, 2008
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NOTICE OF PUBLIC MEETING
CITY OF FAIRHOPE
GREENO ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM
The City of Fairhope will hold a public meeting to gather input regarding a Greeno Road
Improvement Plan.
The meeting will be held on Monday April 30, 2007. from 6:00 p.m. to 7:30 p.m., at
the City of Fairhope Municipal Complex in the City Council Chambers located at
161 North Section Street In Fairhope, Alabama.
The meeting will be held in an open house format, with displays and information
available to discuss planning efforts and answer questions.
After the public meeting on April 30, 2007 comments concerning this project will be
accepted until May 14, 2007. and should be forwarded to:
City of Fairhope Planning Department
555 S. Section Street
P.O. Drawer 429
Fairhope, Alabama 36533
OR:
Submit your comments electronically by sending them to: Emily. irbyacofairhope.com
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!014Y
BOB RILEY
GOVERNOR
April 14, 2008
ALABAMA
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION
The Honorable Timothy M. Kant
Mayor, City of Fairhope
P.O. Drawer 429
Fairhope, Alabama 36533
Dear Mayor Kant:
NINTH DIVISION
OFFICE OF DIVISION ENGINEER
1701 I IS WEST SERVICE ROAD N
MOBILE, ALABAMA 38818-1109
TELEPHosie (251) 470-82DO
FAx (251) 473-3624
RE: Project No. TCSP-TC03(003)
Greeno Road Pilot Program
The City of Fairhope
Baldwin County
JOE MCINNES
TRANSPOR'KnON DIRECTOR
QV'
This is to advise you that the above -referenced project has been authorized by the Federal
Highway Administration. Also, your bid package (plans and proposal) is hereby approved. This
letter constitutes your. "NOTICE TO PROCEED' with this project. You may begin advertising for
bids immediafely.
Federal law requires that your advertisement be made at least 21 days prior to opening bids.
Please furnish this office with a copy of the advertisement. Please submit the three lowest
bids to this office.
On a further note ALDOT has discussed and aaree that this proiect should be
constructed during the summer months so as to lessen Impacts on the flow of traffic.
Should you have any questions or need additional Information, please contact Mr. Dewayne A.
Hood at (251) 470-8253.
Sincerely,
Vincent E. Calametti, P.E.
Divisio Engineer
By
Dewayne A. Kood
Division Special Projects Engineer
VEC/DAH/dah
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Councilmember Christenberry said there should be a cut at the entrance to Green
Nurseries. If this was my business, I would be right there where the Greens are now.
Councilmember Ford said I think there should be a cut at this location. Mrs. Green
stated when Mr. Gentle assured us that the project would be stopped, it kept on going
right past our business. She said that Mayor Kant countermanded the order to skip
their business and carry on.
Mr. Mims addressed the City Council and briefly ran through the history of the
project. The following are the Greeno Road Project Dates:
Greeno Road Project Dates
May 7, 2001 — Subcommittee Appointed
January 31, 2002 — CC — Run ads to seek interest in Public Improvement Assessment
Project
February 13, 2002 — CC — 1 million secured in grants
October 2, 2002 — Greeno Rd. Overlay Committee Report
December 23, 2002 — CC — Greeno Rd. Overlay Committee Report given
July 28, 2003 — CC — Resolution 978-03 w/ALDOT for Transportation Enhancement
September 22, 2003 — CC — Resolution 989-03 w/ALDOT for Greeno Rd Pilot Program
November 17, 2003 — City signed agreement with ALDOT to proceed with Greeno Rd
Project
February 20, 2006 — CC — Resolution 1277-06 wNolkert for Greeno Rd. Pilot Project
Master Plan & Pilot Design
April 30, 2007 — Greeno Rd Improvements Public Involvement Meeting
May 24, 2007 — Street Committee — Mentions Greeno Rd Median
May 31, 2007 — Street Committee —
June 11, 2007 — CC — Resolution 1386-07 w/ALDOT to extend expiration of Greeno Rd
Pilot Program
July 9, 2007 — CC — Resolution 1391-07 wNolkert to develop construction plans for
Greeno Rd Pedestrian Improvements
September 10, 2007 — Street Committee — Greeno Rd Project Update
September 24, 2007 — Includes letter from Debra Greene that mentions Greeno Rd
Median Project
November 8, 2007 — Street Committee — Jennifer Fidler refers to the Greeno Rd Project
November 8, 2007 — CC — Includes Nov. 8, 2007 Street Committee minutes
December 10, 2007 — Resolution 1436-07 wNolkert for Addendum #1 to Task
Agreement No. 2 (to develop construction plans for Greeno Rd
Pedestrian Improvements)
May 27, 2008 — CC — Acceptance of Summit Industries Bid for the Greeno Rd Pedestrian
Improvements
May 29, 2008 — Press Register Article "Fairhope to fund walkways"
June 3, 2008 — Pre -Construction Meeting for Greeno Rd Pedestrian Improvement Project
June 9, 2008 — Street Committee — Mentions Greeno Rd Median
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Mr. Mims mentioned that Ken Eslava manages all public works projects. In 2001,
the Greeno Road Project began regarding the concerns of what Greeno Road looked
like and the main issue was pedestrian improvements.
Jamie Lyles from Volkert & Associates addressed the City Council and began by
stating there were several meetings with the City and ALDOT. Modifications would
not be approved by ALDOT. This would change the whole plan and would not meet
ALDOT's specifications. Mr. Lyles said they avoided the most populated business
district with this plan.
Councilmember Christenberry stated we cannot make a decision, but could go back to
ALDOT and ask. Councilmember Stankoski asked; what is the standard road cut.
Mr. Lyles replied 200 plus feet. Councilmember Ford asked; "are you saying there is
no hope for the Green? Is there some way to work this out? Do you have access to
your property from Dyer Road?" Mrs. Green replied no.
City Attorney Marion E. Wynne asked; what are the specific specifications? Mr.
Lyles said a road cut would not be approved because of two other intersections —
Dyer and Gayfer. Councilmember Ford asked if there is another entrance at Dyer
Road and questioned where the trucks turned around now. Mr. Green replied that
trees would have to be removed and the road is not paved. Council President Gentle
asked; how many trucks do you have a week? Mrs. Green said our primary access is
U. S. 98. Mr. Green replied two to three per week, but other times of the year
sometimes two a day. He told the City Council "if entrance is left open, it would be a
continuance to Hoyle. Our entrance is so close to Hoyle, it could have been left
alone." Councilmember Ford asked; how far away is your property to Dyer Road?
Mr. Green replied 260 feet. Mrs. Green stated you all are talking about solutions that
would cost a great deal of money.
Mayor Kant said it is either some or none for the medians. Councilmember
Christenberry stated that if we chose to put that out, then we would be heroes. It
makes me feel guilty. Mayor Kant said we need to look at the better good for the
community. We have gone through the whole process and have the approval of the
Governor.
Councilmember Ford stated that he was told that only a rural road could have a
median and not in urban areas. Mr. Mims mentioned that the Highway 181 median
project was approved. When you get closer to Fairhope Avenue, you just hold your
breath. Councilmember Ford said you are cutting people off; we made a mistake.
Councilmember Quinn asked what does this do to the rest of the plan if we leave a
road cut for the Greens. Mayor Kant replied you would have to do the same thing for
Vision Bank. I think we should complete the median project and see how it goes.
14 July 2008
Councilmember Stankoski said he agreed with Councilmembers Ford and
Christenberry. He stated that this is the first time I have seen this document objecting
to the median and have a problem with Mrs. Green not saying anything until a couple
of weeks ago. Mr. Mims stated he had conversations at length with Debra Green and
received a memo from her, dated May 30, 2007, regarding good buffers and green
space saying the median made her feel secure. We held a meeting for Bones &
Babies and referred to the Greeno Road Median Project. Concerns were with
commercial traffic. Mrs. Green said we are not trying to regulate traffic.
Councilmember Quinn moved to stop the project at Green Nurseries, continue project
North of Dyer Road, and schedule a meeting with City Staff, ALDOT, several City
Councilmembers, and the Greens to try and find a resolution to the median issue.
Seconded by Councilmember Ford, motion passed unanimously by voice vote.
Councilmember Christenberry asked what happens if ALDOT says no. City Attorney
Wynne stated for the city's sake let's move quickly; "If we are messing with the way
they are doing the job, there may be financial obligations to the companies."
Council President Gentle asked Mr. Eslava; do you think they would be receptive to
moving? Mr. Eslava replied he didn't think there would be a problem since they were
willing to do the same on Friday.
Larry Stejskal, 217 Simon Street, Fairhope, Alabama, asked to be heard by the City
Council. He requested the City Council to not have meetings that citizens cannot
attend, like at 8:00 a.m. He said to please schedule when we can attend.
City Attorney Wynne told the City Council, "time is of the essence, so have the
meeting as soon as possible."
The City Council took at five minute recess at 7:10 p.m. and resumed at 7:15 p.m.
Councilmember Quinn moved to accept the low bid of DCP Enterprises
provided all specifications are met, for the annual contract for hydrated lime and gas
chlorine chemicals for the Fairhope Water System. Seconded by Councilmember
Christenberry, motion passed unanimously by voice vote. This purchase will be
funded by Water Operating Funds.
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Councilmember Stankoski moved to accept the low bid of Commercial Van
Specialists provided all specifications are met, for a combination pole and reel trailer
for the Electric Department. Seconded by Councilmember Christenberry, motion
passed unanimously by voice vote. This purchase will be funded by Electric
Operating Funds.
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Councilmember Stankoski moved to accept the low bid of Mobile Bay
Overhead Doors, Inc. provided all specifications are met, for the firehouse overhead
Door repair and replacement for Fairhope Firehouse #1. Seconded by
Councilmember Ford, motion passed unanimously by voice vote. This purchase will
be funded by General Funds.
Councilmember Ford moved to pay bills as presented. Seconded by
Councilmember Stankoski, motion passed unanimously by voice vote.
There being no further business to come a re the City Coun '1, the meeting
was duly adjourned at 7:24 p.m.
Robert C. Gentle, Council President
isa . Hanks, City Clerk