HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-07-2003 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday,
July 7, 2003 at 5:OOPM at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section
St.
Present: Larry Green, Chairman; Tim Kant, Dan McCrory, Bob Clark, Dick
Charles, Lee Turner, Ed Brinson, Jean Wilson. Christopher Baker,
Director of Planning & Zoning, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary. Absent: Bob
Gentle
The minutes of the June 2, 2003 meeting were duly approved as written
on motion by Dick Charles, 2Id by Dan McCrory and unanimously carried.
Mr. Baker asked if the commission would consider altering the agenda so
Item 13 could be heard first. No one objected.
SD03.43 Request of Baldwin County Planning Department for review
under 11.52.11 of the Point Clear Trail(Generally located south of the
Grand Hotel and terminating at Mullet Point Park) Mr. Baker explained
this is another portion of the Eastern Shore Trail 5.5 miles long and will
run from the Grand Hotel to Mullet Point. The trail will be 8 feet wide and
will be for pedestrians and bicycles. He recommended approval. Cara
Stallman of the County spoke outlining the project saying it would run from
the Grand Hotel to Mullet Point Park. Greg Smith, an engineer, was also
present to answer any questions. They were asked about materials they
plan to use and whether or not it would be striped. She answered concrete
and the striping was a good suggestion. A motion was made by Dick
Charles to approve as recommended by staff. Ed Brinson 2"d the motion
and it carried unanimously.
Mr. Baker said we needed to set a public hearing date for a revision to the
Comprehensive Plan and Subdivision Regulations regarding Jurisdictional
Limits and Water and Sewer Provisions. He said he is waiting for legal
staff comments and should be able to have the hearing at the September
2"d meeting. He is suggesting that we schedule it for then. Bob Clark
moved to set public hearing for that date. Dick Charles 2"d the motion and
it carried unanimously.
SR03.01 Site Plan Review of the De La Mare Phase 2(Generally
located south of DeLaMare Avenue) In his comments Mr. Baker said this
is the land of Mac Porter and is land behind the existing new building that
fronts on DeLaMare Avenue. He said parking and drainage are the two
issues that we need to look at and that he is providing 7 parking spaces
with a garage set off of the property line. Further, that Mr. Bassett is
looking at handling stormwater management and that he recommended
approval subject to the stormwater management negatively impacting
adjacent
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property owners. Charlie Bassett addressed the commission saying that
the water would run on the north side to DeLaMare Street. The Mayor
spoke saying he preferred the water run south to the storm drain in the
alley rather than DeLaMare Street. Mr. Baker said he would look into
possibility of water running that way. Tim Kant moved to approve subject
to staff recommendation. Ed Brinson 2"d motion and it carried
unanimously.
SR03.02 Site Plan Review Greeno Road Professional Park
PUD(Generally located east of US 98, north of Edwards, South of Gayfer
Avenue) Mr. Baker said this is plan to construct a building on Lot 4 and
that he has an issue with where proposed drive thru is located on side
rather than rear. He also said Mr. Dyas might be asking for road signage
rather than signs on buildings. Recommendation was to approve subject
to staff working with developer at the time of building permit to meet all
conditions of the PUD. Mr. Dyas addressed the commission saying there
will be a road that runs through the back of the property from Gayfer to
Edwards with only one curb cut on Greeno for whole PUD and it will be
built first. Larry Green mentioned having barrier that prohibits left turn on
Greeno out of this site. Craig said this would be no problem. He said he
would like to address signage at a later date but did not agree with
Christopher that drive-thru needed to be at back of building because it
might cause a stacking problem in the rear. He said everything will be
architecturally and aesthetically pleasing and landscaped as directed.
Further discussion led to a motion by Bob Clark to approve subject to
staff recommendation. Ed Brinson 2"d and motion carried unanimously.
SD03.23 Request of Mr. Rogers for clarification on requiring insurance for
Silverwood Phase 3. Mr. Baker said this project started in 1999 and due
to health reasons has been drawn out. It is now a requirement to have
insurance for the project engineer and Mr. Roger's engineer cannot get it
because of the length of the project. He refused to sign the plat unless
insurance was provided or the commission votes to not require insurance.
Lee Turner said everything he said was true and he moved to make
exception, give approval. Ed Brinson 2"d the motion and it carried
unanimously.
SD03.37 Minor Plat of Cross Place(Generally located west of Summit St
and south of White Avenue) Mr. Baker said this is the 29,000 sq ft parcel
land of Virginia Cross and she is wishing to divide into two parcels zoned
R-2. He said that R2 requires 10,500 sq ft and 75 ft width at the setback
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line. As proposed it does meet the square foot requirements however it
does not meet the width requirement. He reported he received drainage
study and proof of insurance today but has not been able to review it. He
recommended denial. Seth Moore represented Ms. Cross. Discussion
led to a suggestion to move a stake 9 ft. north and it would make two lots -
75 X 90 without violating the 10 ft. side yard setback. Further discussion
led to a motion by Dick Charles to approve subject to relocation of pin,
and no violation of side yard requirements. Ed Brinson 2"d the motion Bob
Clark asked to amend the motion to say, and drainage being built at time
of issuance of building permit, amendment was accepted, with same
second and carried unanimously.
SD03.38 Minor Plat Brannon Park(Generally located north of US 98 just
before the Fish River Bridge at the corner of McKenzie Road) Mr. Baker
said this is a 6.54 acre parcel located in the county land of Clarence
Burke who is proposing a 5 lot subdivision. Public water is available but
there will have to be individual septic systems. Stormwater management
design has not taken place as the building footprints and impervious areas
have yet to be completed. Permits will have to be issued by the county
and they will have to meet county stormwater management requirements.
He recommended approval subject to future ROW being shown on the
plat. David Diehl of EDS represented the property owner. Discussion led
to a motion by Lee Turner to approve subject to meeting stormwater
management design and showing future ROW on plat. Dick Charles 2"d
and motion carried unanimously.
SD03.39 Minor Plat of Johnson Place(Generally located south of
Fairhope Avenue west of Ingleside and east of Call Street). Mr. Baker
Said this is a 31,000 sq ft parcel of property zoned R2 and that John
Bethea wishes to divide into 2 lots. He said he just received the proof of
insurance and drainage information today but has not had time to study it.
He had recommended denial. Seth Moore was representing Mr. Bethea.
Further discussion led to a motion by Bob Clark to approve subject to
Christopher Baker's review and required drainage being built at time of
building permit issuance. Ed Brinson, 2"d and motion carried unanimously.
SD03.40 Minor Plat of Crawford Properties (Generally located north of
Fly Creek, west of Main Street 98 on Mobile Bay in Montrose) Mr. Baker
said this is a 5.97 acre parcel of property that has frontage on Mobile Bay
and Scenic 98 and is zoned R2A in the Baldwin County Zoning District.
Mr. Crawford is proposing to create 6 lots, the smallest being 24,688 sq. ft.
He pointed out there is a large gully that runs through the middle of the
property but all parties are interested in maintaining this and keeping it
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stable. He also stated the drainage is an important issue but the
development is not proposing storm water management because of the
gully. He said Ray Moore is representing Mr. Crawford and has met with
ADEM. Recommendation was to approve subject to septic approval and
the use of pervious driveways. Mr. Moore said the gully is in stable
condition and they checked it during the 4" rain and there was very little
impact. He also said he had Larry Morris of the Conservation Dept. look
at and Mr. Morris told him we do not want to detain water in gully but let
run out in a sheet flow across property as it is doing now. Mr. Moore said
they plan to build 3 berms and have two curb cuts paved with pervious
material, one going in and one going out. He said Mr. Crawford plans to
live on the property and there will be nothing below the bluff. He said Mr.
Crawford does plan to annex at some point in time. Discussion was held
and 3 neighbors spoke: one asking who was going to monitor this-ADEM;
one citing water problems now; one saying this is very pristine piece of
property being disturbed. Dick Charles moved to approve subject to Mr.
Baker's recommendations. Ed Brinson 2"d motion and it passed
unanimously.
SD03.41 Informal Sketch Review of Cyrus Cove(Generally located
south of Cty Rd 32 across from the Newton School) Mr. Baker in his
comments said this is a 40 acre parcel owned by Fairhope Hatchery
located outside the city and is not zoned. One hundred five lots are
proposed. He noted double frontage lots are proposed and that the
subdivision regulations do not allow this. He said further that the developer
has been advised that it may trigger a traffic study and that they would be
responsible for improvements required. The proposed lot size is 9100 sq
ft which is smaller than allowed and would not meet requirements for
water and sewer(minimum is 10,500). He also noted that this was former
chicken farm and some soil samples might be needed. Dick Charles
presented and read copy of comments he suggested in addition to Mr.
Baker's comments(copy in file). David Diehl represented the owner
saying they have added another access to Hwy 27, the density has been
decreased, 26 units per acre, and their goal is to have upper scale homes
for medium income families, 105 lots. A heavy buffer on Hwy 32 was also
suggested.
SD03.42 Informal Sketch Review of Moorehaven Retirement
Village(generally located at the southwest comer of Windmill Road and
County Road 27) Mr Baker said this is a three acre parcel owned by Mr.
Manifold currently zoned R1. Mr. Bassett represented Mr. Manifold and
said that offices and duplexes for retirement are proposed. That this could
be transition area, commercial and residential, and include architectural
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style. Mr. Bassett showed a drawing of what proposed, 7 residential units
with commercial center. Tim Kant asked about setback in case of 4 lane.
Mr. Bassett said that crushed stone is proposed in this area but if 4 laned
could move back and screen.
SD03.44 Informal Development Review for the redevelopment of
Gayfer Park Mobile Home Park(Generally located south of Gayfer
Avenue Extension west of Blueberry Lane) Mr. Baker said this property is
owned by Kevin Boone. It is in the city and has water and sewer and
overhead electric. He said the lot sizes are now approximately 60X130
and Mr. Boone is proposing to redevelop the park to residences but wants
to keep the lots the same size because of existing utility services. The
streets do not have curb and gutter or sidewalks but he has agreed to
install them. Main issues are density and the overhead electric. John
Avent was representing Mr. Boone. Several residents of the park were
present and expressed that they had not received any notice just word of
mouth what proposed and that they don't have money to move trailers if
this is true. They were assured that if this moves forward they will have
the Planning & Zoning Department notify them of what proposed.
Discussion followed and consensus was if proposed, change should meet
R2 requirements.
SD03.45 Request of Don Boone of Riviera Utilities for review under
11.52.11 for the construction of a new electrical substation on State
Hwy 104(generally located south of 104 just east of Greeno Rd) Mr.
Baker said the location of the substation is to be on Hwy 104 and is
approximately 2.3 acres on Auburn property. His recommendation was to
approve. Discussion led to a motion by Dick Charles to approve, 2"d by
Dan McCrory motion carried unanimously.
Under new business discussion was held and a motion made by Bob
Clark to permit scheduling of workshops as needed, on a called meeting
basis, and if needed such meeting to take place on the Tuesday before
the regular monthly planned meeting at 9:OOAM. Ed Brinson 2"d the
motion and it carried unanimously.
There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned at 7:45 PM
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Betty Ri enbark, Secretary
Mgrry —Green, Chairman
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