HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-03-2002 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday, June 3, 2002
at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street in the Council Chambers
Present: Lary Green, Chairman; Tim Kant, Cecil Christenberry, Dan McCrory, Bob
Clark, Dick Charles, Lee Turner, Ed Brinson, members.. Christopher Baker,
Director of Planning & Zoning, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary. Member Jean Wilson
was absent
The Chairman welcomed Cecil Christenberry as a new member serving.
The minutes of the May 6, 2002 meeting were duly considered and approved as
presented on motion by Dick Charles, seconded by Lee Turner and unanimously
carried.
At this time it was announced that the rezone application of Liberty Church and
subsequent minor plat approval had been withdrawn. Items #2 & #5 on the agenda.
SD02.19 Replat of Bosby Subdivision land of Clarence Bosby, generally located
south of Middle St and east of Ingleside. Mr. Baker in relating issues associated with
this plat said this development meets the plan, there are no improvements to be
constructed, sidewalks are not required and the developer is requesting a waiver of the
drainage study as the lots are large and the improvements minimal. Pete Garsed was
present representing the property owner. He said Mr. Bosby was planning to build a
new home and let his daughter live in the existing home. Staff recommendation was to
approve. A motion was made by Tim Kant, 2nd by Dick Charles to approve request.
Motion carried unanimously.
S1302.20 Replat of Cecil's Office Place, land of Myrl Pitman, generally located west of
Bancroft and south of Greer's grocery store on Section St. Mr. Baker was asked for his
comments and said that the development meets the comprehensive plan, no
improvements are to be constructed, no drainage study is required as the property is
already built on and sidewalks are not required. Staff recommendation was to approve.
A motion was made by Dick Charles to approve, 2"d by Ed Brinson, motion carried with
one abstention by Lee Turner.
SD02.22 Preliminary Plat of Idlewild Phase 7, land of Klumpp Family Ltd, generally
located south of Fairhope Avenue and north of Windmill Rd. In stating the issues Mr.
Baker said this development meets the comprehensive plan, drainage calculations and
certifications have been provided. Sidewalks will be constructed with the public
improvements. He also mentioned that the water main was getting overloaded and
recommended that they tie into one on to an existing main on Fairhope Avenue. Staff
recommendation was to approve with the addition of traffic calming. Mr. McCrory,
Water & Sewer Supt, said that currently they are using one 6" water line and he is
recommending with the new phase bore under road and connect to 1W' line on the
north side of Fairhope Avenue between Hwy 27 and Hwy 103. David Diehl was present
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representing the property owners and said they had no problem with this proposal and
have added it to their plans. Mr. Green had requested a master street plan showing
what existing and this was passed out to commission members. Discussion followed
with Mr. Green saying that it was thought that in earlier plans another exit was shown
on the street masterplan and also he heard the remaining RA on Hwy 27 was going to
be developed into a mini village which would have created a 2"d egress/ingress into this
subdivision keeping traffic from having to enter an arterial road. Mr. Diehl said there
was a 2"d exit but it was removed because developers thought the city wanted it
removed. Discussion led to commission saying it would like a future ROW put back
and continued(paved) to property line on Orleans Drive. Dick Charles moved that this
be accepted with recommended traffic calming, also extend Orleans Rd to property line
and pave and getting 2"d water line ran to Fairhope Avenue. Ed Brinson Td motion and
it carried unanimously.
SD02.23 Replat of Benjamin Moore property, generally located south of Morphy and
west of Church St. Mr. Baker commented that this is combining 2 lots into 1 and is
zoned business. Staff recommendation was to approve as improvements already exist.
Lee Turner moved to approve, Dick Charles 2"d motion and it carried unanimously.
SD02.24 Public Hearing to consider amending the drainage requirements in the
subdivision regulations. Mr. Baker said that Hutchinson, Moore & Rauch had been
hired to do a drainage study after we had problems with Fairfield S/D and that as a
result of that study they came up with recommendations to improve our subdivision
regulations and get all the engineers using the same criteria. That in the past they don't
use the same assumption and could arrive at different conclusions and when put the
developments together the watershed could be different and the result would be we
would end up with incongruent water designs. They reviewed the existing requirements
and suggested new assumptions so all would be the same hoping to help solve the
drainage problems in the future. It was asked if the engineers had received the
information and Mr. Baker said it was published and he had received no comments
pro/con. As no one further wished to speak to the issue, Mr. Green declared the public
hearing closed and Dick Charles moved to accept amendment as presented. Bob
Clark 2"d the motion and it carried unanimously.
I1102.03 Informal Development Review for Mike Wesley. Steve Dunnam spoke on
Mr. Wesley's behalf saying this development is 2 miles southeast of the airport and
they have been before the county commission with proposal. That they had received
approval to build a mobile home park on a 10 acre tract for 40 separate units, and one
phase complete. That at this time they wish to convert from mobilehome to subdivision
but they have already put down the 20 ft. wide pads. Their question to the commission
is if he converts to a 15 lot subdivision with over 20,000 sq ft each will he have
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problems with the city with the 20 ft. wide pads. He said they would use swale ditches.
Mr. Dunnam said the community wants it and that it would decrease density from 40 to
15. Mr. Green said this is a positive move, electric and water are already there, if it
meets compaction no problem with this. Commission members did not voice opinions
but there was a sense of feeling in concert.
IR02.02 By Law Amendment to Allow for a Consent Agenda Mr. Baker commented
that this would allow the easy items on the agenda to be considered at one time.
They would all be listed together and if no discussion would pass easily. He said this
would expedite the meeting and recommended approval. Jean Wilson had prepared
the amendment. Further discussion led to addition of one sentence at end where the
commission and audience will be asked if there are any questions about any item and if
so it can be removed before a vote is taken. The By Law Amendment will read as
follows:
Article 7 Subdivision of Land and Plat Review:
The Commission may, at its discretion, use a consent agenda for consideration for any
item that does not require a public hearing by State Code or City Ordinance.
All items in the consent agenda shall be acted upon by the Commission, with a single
vote. An item shall be removed from the consent agenda by the request of one or more
Commissioners. Should a Commissioner(s) so request, the item shall be placed on the
regular agenda immediately following action taken by the commission on the consent
agenda. The Chair shall ask the commission and the general public if there are any
questions about an item on the consent agenda before a vote is taken.
Mr. Green reported in new business that he wished the commission to be aware of a
couple of committees working - sidewalk issues, and Christopher Baker said that
there is a proposed meeting with the city council to review the subdivision regulations,
a couple of tweaks to make, getting last of comments this week and then get to Glen Le
Roy and get final. Larry Green asked if the major changes could be given along with a
copy of the old regulations for comparison purposes. Dick Charles said the Greeno Rd
overlay committee continues progress.
There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned.