HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-04-2002 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning and Zoning Commission, City of Fairhope, met in regular session at
5:00 p.m., Fairhope Municipal Complex Council Chamber, 161 North Section Street,
Fairhope, Alabama 36532, on, Monday. 04 February 2002.
Present were Chairman, Larry Green, Commissioners: Timothy M. Kant, Dan McCrory,
Pauline Anders, Bob Clark, Dick Charles, Lee Turner, Ed Brinson, and Jean Wilson;
Director of Planning and Building Christopher Baker, and Acting Secretary Geniece W.
Johnson. Secretary Betty Rivenbark was absent.
There being a quorum present, Chairman Green called the meeting to order.
Commissioner Dick moved to approve minutes of the 02 January 2002, regular meeting.
Seconded by Commissioner McCrory, motion passed unanimously.
ZC-02-01 - A public hearing was held as advertised to consider the request of Mr. Craig
Dyas representing Greeno Road. Property owners for a zoning change from R4-Multi-
Family, R3-Single Family, and R1-Single Family to a Planned Unit Development for
Business and Professional uses. This property is generally located on the East side of
Greeno Road North of Edwards Avenue and South of Gayfer Avenue.
Mr. Baker explained that the property is approximately 1250 feet long and 250 feet deep.
The parcel contains approximately 7 acres. The property is surrounded by the following
residential zonings. To the North is a PUD for Arbor Gates Apartments, to the South is a
PUD for Homestead, to the East is R3 at Rosa Acres, and to the West is R1 Single
Family.
Mr. Dyas is proposing to change the zoning from the residential use to a PUD to allow
for Business and Professional Offices. He is proposing 7 office buildings that contain a
combined total of 46,600 sq. ft. of office space. The proposed buildings range in size
from 3500 to 8000 sq. ft.
The development proposal is as follows:
Setbacks: Front 35
Rear 40
Interior 10 (Driveway side 15)
Street side 20
Access: Via an alley running North and South from Gayfer to Edwards. There is one
right in right out in the center of the property.
Buffer: 20' in the rear with a fence and landscaping approved by the City Horticultural ist.
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Uses: They are proposing B4 uses as provided for in the Zoning Ordinance. This is
office type use.
Building Height: 35' as defined by the Zoning Ordinance.
Landscape and Sign: The developer has committed to meeting our landscaping and sign
requirements.
Refuse: The developer has not indicated the placement of these locations. However,
the developer has committed to ensuring that the placement of these locations, are not
going to be a nuisance with adjacent properties (i.e. screening and landscaping)
Comprehensive Plan: This request is not in conformance with the Plan. The Plan does
not support the stripping out of Greeno Rd.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
This is a difficult case. There are people who own the property that have been impacted
by the construction of Greeno. However, we have to look at the implications to the
development of the City. In divorcing myself from the emotion of the case I am
recommending denial. The Comprehensive Plan does not support development of this
property in a B4 fashion. The Plan does not support the stripping out of Greeno Rd. A
goal of planning is not to encourage land use conflicts for conventional development.
Additionally, we have much vacant or underutilized commercial space — the City recently
approved either 40K or 60K of office space at Village North.
Mr. Dyas addressed the Commissioners and expressed that the access running North
and South from Gayfer to Edwards is not an alley, but is a park environment. Mr. Dyas
feels that this proposal fit the Comprehensive Plan.
Chairperson Green called the Public Hearing open and the following persons addressed
the Commissioners:
Ed Snyder - A resident of Jeff Davis Street expressed that he did not like the proposed
office having rear parking. The parking should be in front of the offices; this would
protect the residents behind the proposed PUD.
Don Hughes — 9630 Hucknall Drive, lives two miles from the proposed PUD. Mr.
Hughes is in favor of rezoning these properties.
Vince Valentim — Property owner on Greeno Road, and is in favor of the rezoning.
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Peggy McKenna — 903 Diehl Avenue expressed three concerns: Traffic on Edwards
Avenue, Rear Parking, and did not want the mature trees removed from the site. Ms.
McKenna also expressed that she did not have any problems with the development, and
would rather have Mr. Dyas' development instead of fast food restaurants or a gas
station.
Fay Burn spoke on behalf of her mother residing at Silver Zion — expressed that she was
impressed with the project, and that Mr. Dyas is trying to work with the city. Ms. Burn
expressed concern with traffic and asked the Commissioner to consider another light at
Gayfer.
Charlie Windom — 209 Jeff Davis Street expressed that he was against this proposal
due to the value dropping on the surrounding properties. Mr. Windom also expressed
that the neighbors did not want their back yards lit, and parking in the rear would cause
traffic problems. The parking should be moved to the front of the property.
Clay Havard - expressed that this would be good for Fairhope, and the landscape on the
back should be kept and maintained. The proposed offices would not be opened 24/7.
These businesses would only be open 5 days a week.
Bill Levitt — Owner of property in Rosa Acres expressed this would be great for Fairhope.
Fairhope is growing in this direction.
Chairperson Green called the Public Hearing closed.
After the Commissioners discussion and questions, Commissioner Anders stated that
this does fit the Comprehensive Plan, and moved to approve the proposed project.
Seconded by Commissioner Brinson.
Chairperson Green expressed that a PUD has already been approved at Highway 104
and U.S. 98 and no development has taken place on this property. Now we are
approving another PUD. "I am not sure that the timing is right," said Mr. Green.
Commissioner Wilson expressed that this property will not continue to look like this, and
that nice up scale professional businesses would be better for Fairhope.
Commissioner Turner stated that the City has some control at this time with seven
houses wanting to be rezoned, instead of having one house at a time rezoned.
Commissioner Turner also asked if Commissioner Anders would amend her motion to
require an 8 ft fence to be built instead of a 6 ft fence, and that low level lighting be
used, and the lighting should be checked before the Certificate of Occupancy is issued.
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Commissioner Kant stated that if the Site Plans will not come back for approval than the
ordinance need to have an assurance list of items allowed. Therefore the
Commissioners would know what they are voting on.
Commissioner Charles challenged Mr. Dyas on the possible, potential need for a
residential component to his PUD proposal. In that a prospective tenant could
materialize who desired a mixed use structure as one or more of the seven proposed
buildings.
After further discussion, Commissioner Anders moved to amend her motion to require
the following in addition to the other development proposals:
1. Parking - Maintain parking as proposed.
2. Signage — one 20 ft. ground level sign on each building as permitted by the sign
Ordinance.
3. Building Height — Shall be 35 ft
4. Fencing — Require 8 ft fence instead of 6 ft
5. Lighting - Low lighting must not spill over in the neighborhood
6. Sight Plan Approval — Require a sight plan approval on each building by P & Z
and City Council
7. Allow for a residential component upstairs.
Seconded by Commissioner Brinson. The request passed by the following votes: AYE -
Kant, McCrory, Anders, Charles, Turner, and Brinson, and Wilson. NAY -Clark, and
Green.
SD 01.43 — Request from Mr. Klumpp for a re -plat of Orchard Park, generally located
East of County Road 27, North of Fairhope Avenue.
Mr. Baker explained that Mr. Klumpp is seeking a re -plat of Orchard Park Subdivision.
This property is located outside of the City North of Fairhope Ave. and East of County
Road 27. The re -plat contains 57.91 acres.
The issues associated with this preliminary plat are as follows:
1. Comprehensive Plan: This request is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan.
These are large lots that because of access and infrastructure issues will come back
before the Commission for further subdivision.
2. Drainage: 3 lots are 19,000 sq. ft. The remaining 5 lots are in excess of 5 acres each.
The developer is requesting a waiver of the drainage requirements at this time because
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they will have to come back before us for further subdivision.
3. Greenspace: No greenspace is required as the lots exceed the trigger for greenspace
provision.
4. Sidewalks: The developer is requesting a waiver of the sidewalk requirements based
on the fact that the lots front an existing county highway.
This case came before the Commission last month but was held over to allow the plat to
show all the adjacent property owners. Please note that there is no connection to the
existing trailer park proposed with this subdivision.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
To approve subject to sidewalks on the 3 lots facing Gayfer. Other sidewalks should be
constructed at the time of further subdivision.
Chairperson Green, Commissioners Anders and Brinson expressed that they are
opposed to waiving the sidewalks. After discussion, Commissioner Wilson moved to
approve the request, with sidewalks not being waived. Seconded by Commissioners
Charles, motion passed unanimously.
SD 02.01 — Request of Jim and Megan Conwell for minor subdivision approval to St.
Joseph Place, generally located South of White Street, East of Equity and West of
Liberty.
Mr. Baker explained that the Conwells own a large parcel of property located in the fruit
and nut area. The property contains approximately 1.2 acres and is zoned R2- Single
Family. All of the adjoining property is zoned R2 as well.
The Conwells are seeking minor subdivision approval. They wish to create 2 additional
lots for a total of 3 lots. The issues associated with this subdivision request are as
follows:
1. Comprehensive Plan: The request is consistent with the Plan.
2. Drainage: A drainage study has been performed. The lots will have to provide some
storage of water. This is not shown on the plat. It must be. Additionally, there should
be a note on the plat that indicates that the City does not accept maintenance of any
detention structures.
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3. Access: The lots have access to both Equity and Liberty. There is a mutual access
easement indicated that will provide access for both lots to either street. However, in
the calculation of lot sizes these access ways have been included in sq. footage.
4. Sidewalks: The developer is asking for a waiver of this requirement.
5. Greenspace: None Required.
Setbacks: The Subdivision Regulations indicate that a lot should meet the minimum lot
width (75' for R2) at the setback line (35' in R2). These lots do not meet this
requirement. The developer is asking for a waiver of this requirement
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
To approve subject to drainage basin being indicated on the plat, a note on the plat
indicating maintenance is property owner responsibility, and cost of the sidewalk be
given to our sidewalk fund.
Seth Moore, with Moore Engineering, addressed the Commissioners stating that the
Conwells are proposing to build a cottage for Mrs. Conwell's parents, and the mature
trees located in an alley vacated by Fairhope Single Tax will not be cut down.
Mr. Hal. P. Norman, a resident at 304 Liberty Street, addressed the commissioners and
expressed that he was not against dividing the lot, but Mr. Norman would like to ensure
that the following are made clear:
1. Nichols street would not be opened
2. The large trees would not be cut down
3. A house is built for Mrs. Conwell's parents
4. The property could not be subdivided or sold for any other purpose
5. Utilities are not assessed across his property.
After further discussion, Commissioner Anders moved to table this request for thirty days
or until the next regular Planning and Zoning Commission meeting. This will allow the
Commissioners to properly locate the proposed site, and the new Fire Chief could check
to see if emergency vehicles can drive through the proposed drive. The garbage and
recycle trucks would not travel this ingress/egress for this will be a private street.
Seconded by Commissioner McCrory, motion passed unanimously. Mr. Baker stated
that new notices would be mailed as a courtesy.
SD 02.02 — Final Plat approval of Idlewild VI, generally located South of Fairhope, West
of County Road 27 and East of Thompson Hall Road in the Idlewild Subdivision
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Mr. Baker explained that Mr. Klumpp is seeking final plat approval of this 6-lot
development. This is a small addition to the existing development and is located at
Orleans Drive. The property is zoned R2 and the lot sizes are greater than 15,000 sq. ft.
The issues associated with this request are as follows:
1. Comprehensive Plan: This is consistent with the Plan.
2. Drainage: The required study and calculations have been provided and certified.
3. Street: The Street is not centered in the ROW. This is because of a row of pecan
trees the developer wished to save. In future phases this will be corrected
All other requirements have been met or agreed to.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
To approve subject to getting a copy of the plan in digital form and a running
greenspace tabulation be provided with the next phase.
Commissioner Anders moved to approve the final plat according to the staff
recommendation. Seconded by Commissioner Clark, motion passed unanimously.
SD 02.03 — Minor Plat of Wagoner -Drummond Subdivision, generally located West of
U.S. Highway 98 and the Municipal Airport, and East of County Road 3.
Mr. Baker explained that Mr. Roberds is seeking Minor Plat approval of a 2-lot
subdivision. The property is located South of town to the West of the Municipal Airport.
The property is not in the City and is not zoned.
The issues associated with this request are as follows:
1. Comprehensive Plan: The request is consistent with the Plan.
2. Drainage: No drainage information has been provided. However, the parcel being
platted in 10 acres in size.
3. Sidewalks: The developer is requesting a waiver of this requirement. Monk Rd. is a
dirt County Rd.
Lots: There are 2 lots being platted: lot 1 will be given to an adjacent property owner and
lot 2 is 10 acres
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All other requirements have been met or agreed to.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
To approve as requested
Commissioner Anders moved to approve the request. Seconded by Commissioner
Turner, motion passed unanimously.
New Business — SD 99-62 — Extension of approval for Finger Industrial park, generally
located at the Municipal Airport on South Highway U.S. 98 aka Greeno Road.
Mr. Baker explained that Mr. Finger received plat approval in 1999 for a re -subdivision
of property at the airport commercial park. The property fronts on Greeno. Mr. Finger
has not yet started the public improvements on the property. He is seeking for an
extension of the approval — as the subdivision regulations state that preliminary approval
is valid for only 2 years.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
To approve the request for 1 year.
Commissioner Turner moved to grant a one-year extension. Seconded by
Commissioner Anders, motion passed unanimously.
Commissioner Anders asked that the committee responsible for the Greeno Road layout
start working on this project. Chairperson Green assured Commissioner Anders that this
project is going to be worked on.
There being no further business to come before the Planning and Zoning Commission
the meeting was duly adjourned at 6:32 p.
L rry Green, airman
/eniece W. John , Acting Secretary