HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-01-2001 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday, October 1,
2001 at 5:OOPM at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street in the Council
Chambers
Present: Larry Green, Chairman; members Tim Kant, Pauline Anders, Bob Clark, Dick
Charles, Lee Turner, Ed Brinson, Jean Wilson, Dan McCrory. Christopher Baker
Director of Planning & Zoning, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary
An election of officers was held. Lee Turner head of the nominating committee put
forth for nomination: Larry Green as Chairman and Dick Charles as Vice -Chairman. Ed
Brinson 2nd recommendation. There were no other nominations forthcoming and the
vote was unanimous for Mr. Green and Mr. Charles.
The minutes of the September 4, 2001 meeting were duly considered and approved on
motion by Dick Charles, 2nd by Pauline Anders and unanimously carried.
ZC01.11 Public Hearing rezone request from R2-Single Family to 133A Tourist
Resort Lodging land of Khim Vira(Generally located east of S. Mobile and South of
Laurel St) Mr. Baker brought to the Commission's attention that the required sign for
the property has not been on the property for the length of time needed before the
public hearing and thereby recommended tabling this until the November meeting.
Dick Charles moved to table for 30 days to give proper notification, Dan McCrory 2nd
and motion carried unanimously.
ZC01.12 Public hearing rezone request from R1 Single Family to R5 High Density
Multi -Family land of Robin Herndon (Generally located east of Scenic 98 and South
of Nelson Rd) Mr. Baker commented that the property to the north is zoned commercial
in the city and to the south is zoned commercial by the county. Property to the east is
zoned R1 by the city and property to the west is zoned residential by Baldwin County.
He said further that Mr. Herndon made an application to zone it commercially in the
Point Clear Zoning District but was denied. The property borders wetlands and may
have wetlands on site. That 10 units are proposed on the site. Recommendation was
for denial because the use of the property to this high of a density is out of character
with the neighborhood and the Point Clear Zoning District. He also listed drainage as
having an adverse impact with this much density. Bill Hyatt, the developer, spoke
saying that the highest and best use of this property would be commercial. He said
they had received a letter of approval from the corps of engineers, and he had made a
visual inspection of the property and found a blockage where boards had been built
across as a footpath that could be contributing to the drainage problem. That they will
take care of their own water/ runoff by retention ponds. In the public hearing: Marjene
Adger who lives directly across the street spoke said there is a poor drainage system
that half of her driveway gone due to water and it stands in the ditch behind the house,
she asked that we please not let this go in there. Flo Snieder of 724 S. Mobile Street
has objection because of size of buildings. Once zoned she feels this would have a
domino effect. A Mrs. Wilkins who owns the property immediately behind said they,
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moved a cottage there on a nice large lot and had wooded, beautiful lot between them
even made a porous driveway in an effort to retain drainage, she feels the best for the
neighborhood is R1. Ta*r Wilkins said he has seen the face of Fairhope change in
recent years, that this much traffic is concern, the owner knew what it was when he
bought it. John Parker, 19397 Hwy 98 spoke saying this land is part of an area
neighborhood and he worked diligently with the family in getting single family
established, annexed into the city. He cited drainage and density as problems, that
Nelson Rd is a good parting, could see 2 family residences as long as drainage
addressed. In a show of hands some 20 residents in the area agreed with what he
said. Anna Hankins representative for Mr. Herndon said that every effort will be made
to retain the drainage, more than retain, she said more than 14 units could be put there
and they opted to put only 10. Fred Killion spoke saying the character of the
neighborhood is single family. He said he also owns the lot on the east side of his
house and is concerned about drainage. Mr. Hyatt restated that they plan to use John
Avent and EDS and will take care of 110% of the water and development. He told of
the extra effort they took to create a beautiful environment. Further discussion led to a
motion by Dick Charles who said based on what he hears from the Planning Director
and all who spoke it is 7 to 1 against, a beautiful, desirable development but he
questions drainage and density, just in the wrong neighborhood, therefore he moved to
deny rezoning request. Pauline Anders 2nd the motion saying the definite trend is to
continue R-1. Motion carried with two abstentions, Lee Turner and Ed Brinson.
SD01-18 Replat of Grunsten Subdivision land of Russell Grunsten(generally
located in Rock Creek west of Sandy Shoal Loop) Mr. Baker said Mr. Grunsten owns
two lots in Rock Creek and is proposing to eliminate the common property line making
two lots into one. Mr. Baker spoke saying this is simple combining of two lots and he
recommends approval. Mr. Grunsten spoke saying the topography of the land might
allow someone to look down on lots where he lives and he wishes to keep private
therefore the request. Pauline Anders moved to approve this request, Dan McCrory 2nd
and motion carried with one abstention by Dick Charles.
SD01.22 Preliminary Approval of Jackson Place land of Klumpp, LLC(generally
located at the southwest corner of Cty Rd 27 and Windmill Rd) Mr. Baker said this is a
31 lot single family development. That when presented there were serious drainage
issues that have now been addressed. He recommended approval. Joe Bullock of
EDS spoke and said to his knowledge all issues have been resolved. Further
discussion led to a motion by Dick Charles to give preliminary approval. Ed Brinson 2nd
the motion and it carried unanimously.
SD01.34 Preliminary Plat of Manchester Place, land of Richard Brunson(generally
located south of Cty Rd 34 east of US Hwy 98) Mr. Baker said this is a 4 lots outside of
the city and all city requirements have been met, staff recommended approval.
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This was carried over from the last meeting in order to have his engineer present to
answer questions raised by adjoining neighbors regarding drainage. He mentioned
that Mr. Brunson had requested a waiver of the sidewalk requirement. Matt Koontz of
GeoSurveying was present and said the main point was drainage. Charlie Bassett
spoke outlining the drainage procedures. He said he provided for 25 year storm and a
existing ditch will handle t he water. It was pointed out that the ditch in question is
overgrown and would be much more effective if cleaned out. Also there is a driveway
that has been constructed that partially blocks the flow. He said what ever would be
built at pre -development rate, would not affect adjoining property. Mr. Valentim spoke
disagreeing with Mr. Bassett and Mr. Brunson. Further discussion led to Mr. Baker
saying they have met our requirements and will have to meet county requirements also.
Pauline Anders moved to approve with sidewalks installed. Dick Charles 2"d motion
and it carried unanimously. Mr. Turner made the comment that being neighbors they
could try and work together, it was evident that Mr. Valentim did not wish to.
SD01.36 Replat of Luka Subdivision land of William Luka ( generally located east of
Myrtle and north of Gayfer Ave) Mr. Baker said Mr. Luka owns two lots and he is
requesting to move the property lines. He said both lots will conform to R1
requirements. He recommended approval subject to placing a note on the plat that
indicates that additional building code requirements will be imposed on any
development on this lot. Tim Kant moved to approve as recommended by staff with
note on plat. Ed Brinson 2"d motion and it carried unanimously.
SD01.37 Preliminary Plat approval of Idlewild Phase 6(generally located east of the
existing Idlewild development) Mr. Baker said this land is currently zoned R2 Single
Family land of Klumpp family and that a new drainage pond is proposed for these 6 lots
and is proposed to be located behind the present development. That because of the lot
sizes no greenspace is required, and the applicant has been advised of sidewalk
requirements. He said this had been postponed to work out several concerns about
future drainage but everything has been worked out satisfactorily. He recommended
approval. Tim Kant moved for approval, Dick Charles 2"d motion and it carried
unanimously.
SD01.38 Preliminary Plat of Wellington, application of Pecan Park(generally
located south of Gayfer Extension and east of 13). Mr. Baker said this is 8.3 acres
containing 24 lots. The issues associated with this: it meets the connectivity
requirements of the comprehensive plan. Drainage: An offsite pond will be used for
storage and is proposing several swales located behind lots that are 1 foot deep. He
recommended redesigning this as a one foot swale would clog with time. No
greenspace would be required, and the applicant has been advised of sidewalk
requirement. He recommended approval subject to revised drainage plans. Dan
McCrory moved to approve pending revised drainage plans and sidewalks. Pauline
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Anders 2"d and motion carried with Dick Charles and Lee Turner voting against motion.
SR01.03 Site Plan Review for Dr. Randall Hollinger for a building under construction
on Lottie Lane. Staff recommended approval but said he was still reviewing stormwater
calculations. Jim Clark was present and said that Dr. Hollinger was constructing a
dentist office on Lottie Lane and had first said he would put in parking that would drain
but once he found out cost would not be different he changed to asphalt parking lot.
This triggered site plan review. Mr. Clark said the flume dumps in the detention pond
on the southwest corner. Mr. Kant said if the engineer has signed off saying no more
water will runoff and presented landscape drawings, he would go with staff and
recommended approval. Dick Charles 2"d and motion carried with Bob Clark and
Pauline Anders voting no. Ed Brinson abstained.
A report was given from the Airport Sub -committee. Christopher Baker gave out a
package and Chairman Ed Brinson reported that the committee had several meetings,
gotten input and met with Peter Green of Barge, Waggoner, Sumner & Canon, our
airport engineers, and as a result had the ordinances drawn up, they are ready to send
to the council and he is asking for approval from the planning commission. Christopher
explained that Mr. Green had taken input and patterned the ordinances after others in
the state. Dick Charles questioned us acting on it without them getting a chance to
review it, Larry Green commented that is why we formed sub -committees ,
have the committees do the work and make recommendations. Ed Brinson moved to
approve, Lee Turner 2"d and motion carried unanimously.
There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned.