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HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-01-1999 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday, November 1, 1999 at 5:OOPM at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street Present: Larry Green, Chairman; members: Bill Jones, Pauline Anders, William Richmond, Lee Turner, Tim Kant. Christopher Baker, Director of Planning & Zoning, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary The minutes of the October 4, 1999 meeting were duly approved as written on motion by Bill Jones, 2"d by Pauline Anders and unanimously carried. ZC99-21 Public hearing Harold Thompson request for R-2 Low Density Single Family concurrent with annexation for his property located on Mosely Road west of South Meadows Drive. Mr. Baker commented that Mr. Thompson's land is outside the city and came up for preliminary review, as a result redesigned and is now requesting to establish R2 zoning concurrent with annexation and his request for a 33 lot subdivision is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan. Further, staff recommended approval. Mr. Green opened up the public hearing for comments. Charles Ogden, engineer for Mr. Thompson said he was present to answer any questions. A Dennis Aycox spoke saying he lives on South Meadows Drive and that now his street is a cul de sac and he is making a request that it stay that way, not connect to the new subdivision, possibly find another way to Highway 13. Mr. Green said that one of the concerns of the Planning Commission has been "connectivity" in designs that have come before us. Mr Ogden was asked why it was shown this way and he said at the city's request. Pauline Anders asked Christopher to explain why this better and he said for better access for city services and for emergency services. That from Point A to Point B actually will have traffic reduction. Mr. Aycox in any event asked them for consideration in keeping their cul de sac. Kathy Byrd said she is an adjacent property owner and wanted to address drainage problems. She was told that the time to do this was when they come back with plats. Mr. Ogden said they know they cannot add any more water to this area than what is there now and they are providing a retention pond. It was pointed out that there are severe drainage problems there now and they need to make provisions in the preliminary plat to ensure that there will not be any more release than what there now, and what there now too much. Pauline Anders moved to recommend zoning to City Council as requested, but she stated we will be looking hard at drainage when new plans submitted. William Richmond 2"d and motion carried unanimously. ZC99-23 Public hearing Craig Dyas change from R3PGH to 64-Business & Professional (property located just north of Rock Creek on Hwy 98 and south of Montrose Woods) Mr. Baker commented that Mr. Dyas wishes to build an office building on this location and if approved would only allow for office and professional uses, prohibits retail uses. Further, that this is not in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan as comprehensive plan indicates this area to be developed as single family residential. Staff recommended denying this request because it is in conflict with the comprehensive plan. The property is already zoned residential. Mr. Green opened the public hearing for comments. A Tim MichaW�spoke saying he is Planning & Zoning Commission - page two November 1, 1999 representing Mr. Dyas. That this is one acre and there are still four left in this parcel. He said Mr. Dyas has met with Montrose Woods residents and they have no problem with what proposed. Pauline Anders asked what about Mr. Corte's request for retail adjacent to this that was forwarded to the City Council. Mr. Baker said the Council tabled it and Mr. Corte is reconsidering his request. She asked how Mr. Dyas would egress and ingress and was told they had planned to use Mr. Corte's proposed entrance but if not approved they may have to seek entrance on Highway 98. It was the consensus of the Commission that they did not wish to see another entrance on Highway 98. A common access easement across Mr. Corte's property was talked about. Christopher said that when a plat is presented we could request a common access easement. Lee Turner qte stioned what the setback Tim Kant said that we ha�e beenn Hwy 9working ea 8 was and hhard was told 150' requirement by sta to not try and deviate from the comprehensive plan and that there is plenty of room available for office space now. He further moved to recommend denial of this request to the City Council. Bill Jones 2"d and vote was - to deny Kant, Jones and Green. Against motion - Pauline Anders, William Richmond, Lee Turner. A tie vote was recorded. Mr. Green said to forward to City Council with tie vote recorded. SD99-39 - Replat request of George Walker for Homestead Village 6 lots into 1. Mr. Baker explained that these were 6 lots for individual sale that CHS has acquired and they now wish to construct a new health care facility on the property. They wish to replat so the building will not cross property lines. That certification for improvements will take place when the building permit is applied for. The request is in conformance with the PUD and approval was recommended. George Walker, representing CHS, spoke to the Commission saying they had acquired 6 lots on Edwards Avenue and are now seeking to build a health care facility. Mr. Green asked for comments and James Miller spoke saying he was located 2 lots down from this site and that on original drawing they had planned to build 25 homes on Edwards that were to be used as a buffer, that he does not like the idea of looking out his window and seeing this type facility, that there is ample room elsewhere to build on the south side. Mr. Walker said they have not even formulated plans so he cannot say what type building is planned, he said he is sure it will be aesthetically pleasing and access by private drive. That these lots have been vacant for 4 years. Two more residents spoke against saying they object to a parking lot, garbage and other noises. Further discussion led to a motion by Pauline Anders to reject this replat request. William Richmond 2"d. Vote for the motion- Pauline Anders, William Richmond, Tim Kant, Bill Jones. Against motion - Lee Turner. Motion carried. SD99-42 - Final subdivision approval. Greenbranch Estates - 12 lots property located on Danne Road south of Marlow Road. Christopher remarked that this had come before us and received preliminary approval. That the property is located outside of the city limits but in our ETJ. Improvements have been constructed to city standards and the plat is in conformity and all requests and requirements have been met or agreed to. Staff recommended approval. Ack Moore was representing George Roberds. There being no further discussion a motion was made by Bill Jones to grant approval, 2nd by Planning & Zoning Commission - Page three November 1, 1999 Tim Kant motion carried unanimously. SD99-43 - Informal Plat Review of Quail Creek Unit 4 - 67 lots. Ack Moore was representing AI Roberds in this proposal which is an extension of the existing Quail Creek development. Christopher Baker told the Commission that the issues with this are: 1. Conformity with the Comprehensive Plan - it is in conformance with the comprehensive plan. 2. Master Plan: There is an approved master plan but the current proposal is different than the approved plan. 3. Connectivity: The master plan indicates a connection to Lawrence Road and the proposal does not. The Planning Department feels strongly that this connection should take place as it will allow an alternate point of entry for emergency services and there will be a reduction in traffic along Quail Creek Drive to Hwy 27. 4. Future ROW: the cul de sac at the south end of the proposed development should extend to the property line so future development may connect 5. Drainage: The developer is proposing to discharge runoff into a swamp north of the existing lake. No further drainage information is required as this is an informal review. 6. Traffic Calming: The developer has agreed to construct some traffic calming to reduce travel speeds. 7. Greenspace: The development does not meet either the master plan or the greenspace requirements. He said further that the master plan does not provide greenspace. If the master plan is adhered to no greenspace is required. Ack said the master plan was presented in 1986, some 200 acres with a golf course in the middle. That they can't do much more than what done. He said further that they would be adhering to the master plan and there is no space available for greenspace. Several people spoke from the neighborhood, some against having a second entrance one, for security reasons and two, the increase in traffic that would be generated. There was also a suggestion of a construction entrance, chain it off, Bill Jones said there should be an easement from the cul -de-sac to Lawrence Road. Pauline Anders said she felt it ought to be opened up now, be a mess if wait to do it in the future. She also questioned greenspace. Larry Green said that PUD was originally laid out before greenspace requirement. Christopher offered that if open up second entrance that it would really deter traffic and security has not been problem. It was offered that 33 people affected by this. Pauline Anders asked if they would get with Christopher Baker on greenspace and easement concerns. Ack said he heard their input. SD99-44 Final Plat approval of Fairfield Place Phase 4(located north of Twin Beach Rd and east of the high school) Mr. Baker had remarked that this contains some 15.39 acres and 41 lots located outside the city limits. He said this is not in conformity with the comprehensive plan as it was indicated this should remain agricultural, but preliminary approval was given. He said all the public improvements have been constructed to city requirements and staff recommended approval. A motion was made by Pauline Anders to approve as presented. William Richmond seconded and motion carried unanimously. 17 Planning & Zoning - Page four November 1, 1999 SD99-45 Informal Plat Review of Arbor Lane subdivision, developer Randy Niemeyer, containing 7 acres and 14 lots. Mr. Baker had commented that this property is not included in the limits of the comprehensive land use plan. That a 50 ROW is indicated on the sketch plan whereas the city ROW for a road of this intensity may be 40' width 20' of pavement. That they show one lane, Arbor Lane 1200' long and he is recommending some traffic calming. That a ROW stub is shown next to lot 10 to provide access to adjacent properties. That it has been indicated that water and gas are available in this location and septic tanks will be used for sewer. He recommended 2 fire hydrants be installed. He questioned full cul de sac at retention area. Seth Moore spoke for Mr. Niemeyer and said that this was a full cul de sac, and they will use an island/bubble to slow down traffic, that the lots are R-1 or larger. No formal action was required. SD99-46 Replat of land of Carolyn Bolling Davis-Earnhart two lots into one. Mr. Baker had commented that Ms. Davis owns two adjacent lots on Volanta Avenue and would like to expand her home but her rear setbacks would not allow this expansion. Thereby her request to replat. He recommended approval. Bill Jones moved to approve as requested, Pauline Anders seconded and motion passed unanimously. SD99-47 Preliminary plat of Baldwin Square Professional Park(located along Lottie Lane) Land containing some 4.3 acres and 10 lots. Mr. Baker had remarked that this is in conformity with the Comprehensive Plan. That they are proposing to create several 10,000 to 12,000 sq ft lots and there is no minimum lot requirement for B2. That each user for the lots will be required to meet all city requirements. That Lottie Lane is a private drive but with this plat it will become a public right of way. No sidewalks are proposed or required and the development will have public utilities. Jeff Kennedy spoke for the developer and said that Lottie Lane will be improved and given to city, that the sign in the ROW would be relocated to corner lot. Tim asked about sidewalks and he was told sidewalks would be provided. A discussion followed on the sign and its merits, whether or not needed, pecan trees on lot and if sidewalks put in for each lot. The commission was told that a restrictive covenant could be drawn up saying that each tenant was required to put in sidewalk. A motion was made by Tim Kant to approve subject to applicant getting with Mr. Baker and working out sign issue and sidewalks. Lee Turner 2"d motion and it carried with Pauline Anders abstaining to vote. SD99-48 Preliminary Plat approval of Rock Creek, Phase 6,(located east of the existing Rock Creek)this contains approximately 41.59 acres and 41 lots. Christopher Baker had commented that the proposal is in conformance with the Comprehensive Plan.That they have increased the lot sizes in this plat. That greenspace meets the requirements, the developer will be installing some traffic calming measures along August Court which is long. He said there were some concerns about the proposed street and access to the club house. Staff recommended approval. Bob Foster, of Rock Creek property owners association, wanted assurance that no parking spaces would be taken away from the club house. Trae Corte said that 60 spaces will be removed but Planning & Zoning Commission - Page five November 1, 1999 replaced close to fitness center. They were asked to install sidewalks on Clubhouse replacing parking places. William Richmond 2"d and motion carried unanimously. SD99-49 Informal Plat Review proposed development on Manley Road. Mr. Baker had commented that Trip Pittman is the developer and they would like to annex the property and zones it as a PUD. That the development would contain a mixture of R2 and R3pgh lots. This is 54.5 acres and contains some proposed 129 lots. Jeff Kennedy explained in depth their plans for landscaping, buffers, the total layout and how the two lot sizes would intermingle. Bill Jones mentioned that density was a big concern of the commission. Pauline Anders offered that the drawing looked good, she liked how they had mixed the layout joining the two size lots. Tim asked if they knew of any retail stores planned close to this, that it would be nice to have a drug store, etc. close by. He also questioned the paving of Manly Road. Mr. Pittman responded that he had been told that Manly Road would be paved in the very near future, and certainly before the project got started. Lee Turner said the layout was great but he too, questioned density. The commission was told that if make larger lots they would only lose 5 lots by planning straight R-2. Larry Green offered design was good maybe village concept could be done. Christopher offered that density done right is good, that you have good vs bad. The commission was thanked for their input. A report was given from the Comprehensive Plan Selection Committee and a request for endorsement of the selected consultant. Christopher went over the process they had followed and the need for a revision since the last plan was done in 1995. He told of selection of committee and their review of 5 submittals by consultants. That they had selected Gould, Evans and Goodman, Kansas City, MO and planned to come before the council Monday night with their recommendation. Bill Jones moved to endorse their efforts and selection. Pauline Anders seconded and motion carried unanimously. There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned. 14 ' � 1 - t -e: as tY • � � i, •- _ . ..� . �•'\ Y .- � � � „�; +.� ' •' _ is i� - _