HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-01-1999 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met March 1, 1999
at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street at 5:00 PM.
Present: Chairman Larry Green; members William Richmond, Trisha Lo Porto,
Bill Jones, James P. Nix, Cecil Pitman, Dick Charles, Tim Kant, Thad Ingram.
Christopher Baker, Zoning Enforcement Officer and Betty Rivenbark, Secretary,
Bob Lunsford, Retired Zoning Enforcement Officer
The minutes of the February 1, 1999 meeting were duly approved on motion by Dick
Charles, seconded by Bill Jones, and unanimously carried with two corrections noted.
PUBLIC HEARING-JIM GERAM - R-2 Single Family Residential zoning concurrent with
conditional petition of annexation property abutting Jubilee Trail on the east side. Mr.
Baker was asked to give his comments and he remarked this is now outside the city.
That the lands to the west are zoned R-1 and Arbor Gates apartments adjoins it. He
said that this could serve as a buffer zone and staff recommended approval. Robin
Gregory from Volkert & Assoc. was present representing Mr. Geram. Mr. Green asked
him how this would be handled as this is not a paved road and Mr. Gregory responded
that Jubilee Trail would be improved out to Dyer Road and that the subdivision streets
would be smaller as they would like to try and save the trees; that this is a small
subdivision , that he understood in the past that we have allowed smaller private streets
in subdivisions. Mayor Nix said that we should be considering zoning question today.
Larry Green said he was just making clarification regarding any restrictions that might
apply to the streets. He called for any questions. Andrew Gable spoke saying his
property is to the south and that they have a serious water problem. That the ditch was
closed by Arbor Gates now the water goes east. Does not mind rezoning but where will
the water go? Chris said this is not an issue until subdivision plans submitted. Mr.
Gregory said that the engineer will meet all requirements. Cecil Pitman said he has
legitimate concern, the high density; he is saying look at carefully. A gentleman from
the Assembly of God spoke questioning the road easements. Victor Cook spoke citing
drainage problems on Bishop Road and said we should address drainage first. Tim
Kant agreed, saying it is flat out there and he has been trying to work with the county to
solve these problems. He commented that before this developed we need to make
sure this road is paved, not have problems like we have incurred with Bishop Road
where they promised to pave it and have not. A vote was called for and Cecil Pitman
saying he was alarmed about the drainage and density moved to deny zoning request
to city council, that the engineer needed to come back with something more positive.
Dick Charles 2"d the motion, it is noted for the record that Trisha LoPorto abstained
from voting as she is an adjacent property owner. Motion carried.
PUBLIC HEARING - EARL MALONE - Zoning change request from R-2 Single Family
to B-2 General Business property located on Nichols St. Mr. Baker commented that
the applicant wished to construct a sheet metal facility at this location and that the
request is not in conformance with the approved comprehensive plan, that the
surrounding area is single family and should stay that way. This would be spot zoning
and he recommended denial of request. No one was present representing the
applicant. Bill Jones moved to recommend denial of this request to the city council.
Thad Ingram 2"d and motion carried unanimously.
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PUBLIC HEARING - TEXT CHANGE TO ZONING ORDINANCE
Christopher asked Bob to comment on the zoning text changes that are being
considered at this time as this had been in the works before he came. Bob said this
includes revisions to Article VI- Planned Unit Development provisions by:
Addition of class, Business/Professional Office Development on sites of three acres or
more
Deletion of other commercial uses previously permitted
Other substantive changes are:
Provisions that buildings wilfully removed or destroyed by an owner or his agent shall
lose non -conformity status
Provision requiring all uses after loss fornonconformity to be in strict conformance with
ordinance requirements
Provision for taking average setback where front of buildings are nearer to front
property line than required by ordinance.
(Copy of complete changes in file)
Mr. Green called for any comments or questions saying that these changes had been in
the works for two years and had encouraged Bob to review and clarify this part of
ordinance. Dick Charles moved to accept text changes as presented. Trisha LoPorto
2"d and motion carried unanimously.
QUAIL CREEK ESTATES - The Villas Phase III - Quail Creek Joint Venture -Final
Plat Approval 17 lots on Club Drive
Christopher reported that the three conditions of the Preliminary Plat Approval outlined
at the May meeting had been met as well as the waterline extension to Lawrence Road
is complete and he recommended final plat approval be granted. He noted that no
building permits would be issued until the city council had adopted the streets and
utilities for public maintenance. Ack Moore said everything done as asked. Dick
Charles moved to grant final approval, Thad Ingram 2"d and motion carried
unanimously. Larry Green passed on to Ack concerns about Phase IV, that the street
be completed across the fairways, that this is understood. Ack said he understood.
PLANTATION POINTE EAST - Application of A.I. Corte, Jr., dividing into two lots to
convey one at this time. Christopher remarked that the site is on the north side of
Fairhope Avenue some 900 feet east of U.S. 98. And is zoned B-2 and will be served
by existing utilities. He recommended preliminary and final approval. Randy McKinny
was present to answer any questions. He said they are going to build a bank on this
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property, the smaller of the two lots. There being no further questions, Cecil Pitman
moved to recommend preliminary and final approval, Bill Jones 2"d and motion carried
unanimously.
SWEETWATER - Metcalf & Hemdon, Preliminary & final approval 6 lots -
Christopher commented that this is located on the east side of Scenic Highway 98
immediately south of Carmel Square. That the land area involved is just over five acres
and part of the land area consists of wetlands. Further, this is outside the corporate
limits and will require county approval and county building permits. He said there are
no new streets to be installed and he recommended preliminary and final approval
subject to county engineers endorsement of the plat. Seth Moore was present
representing the property owner. Tim Kant asked if this met all the county zoning
requirements and he said yes. It was pointed out that there will be 3 egress/ingress,
common driveways shared among the six lots and the sewer will go to Carmel Square.
Bill Jones asked about drainage and was told it goes to the rear of the property, to
Sweetwater Branch and they are resolving the wetlands issue with the Corps of
Engineers. James P. Nix said if it meets all the county requirements he moves for
approval of preliminary and final plat, Bill Jones 2"d and motion carried unanimously.
GREENBRANCH ESTATES - Thistle Development LLC, 12 lots - Preliminary Plat
Approval, located on the east side of Danne Road. Christopher commented that
drainage calculations had been presented and that they were proposing handling
stormwater runoff management on a lot to lot basis without retention ponds and
certified that their design conforms to requirements of subdivision regulations. That
there is a substantial amount of subject land that is wetlands; There is no specific area
designated to provide for the 4 acres of recreational greenspace required. He said part
of lot 2 and 11 which is in the wetlands could be dedicated to that use and plat needs
to be amended to show greenspace area. Sewage will be underground and the county
will be responsible for issuance of building permits. He recommended preliminary plat
approval subject to designation of recreational greenspace area and a preconstruction
conference being held. A lengthy discussion followed on whether or not the wetlands
area should be used as greenspace area. Mr. Green said his interpretation was that it
should not. Seth explained that this property is only one foot below surface and not
always swamp area, different criteria apply in defining wetlands: soil type, vegetation
and groundwater. That some people like things left in their natural state, use as walking
path. Seth went on to say that Thistle Road is paved with 60 foot rights of way and
ditches to catch runoff. Dick Charles questioned Lot 10 saying it looks like only 20%
useable. Seth said most lots are 3 acres, that there is plenty of acreage for homes.
Larry Green said again that the greenspace is an issue, that all people should have
access to greenspace, that he has reservations about using wetlands as greenspace.
Further discussion led to a motion by Dick Charles to delay for 30 days until the
information on the perk tests and possible right of way, common area on lot two
presented, he would like to look at the property. Bill Jones 2nd motion and it carried
with William Richmond voting against motion.
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SILVERWOOD-UNIT 3- Application of P.A. Rogers for Preliminary Plat Approval
31 lots west of Cty Rd 27, South of Cty Rd 32. In comments made by Christopher he
said units one and two have been previously approved and the proposed unit 3 would
be the remainder of Rogers' property. He offered that plans and drainage calculations
requiring certification by the engineer have been submitted. That retention area is
shown on lots 11, 12, 13. Based on the project area exceeding 15 acres it appears that
it may be necessary to combine the area of one or two lots with the retention area in
order to meet greenspace requirement. That preliminary approval should be given with
the following conditions: Plat complete with all certifications executed. 2. Detailed
drawings of drainage retention and recreational greenspace with any necessary
delineation of lot changes. 3. Engineer's certification on plans and calculations as
required by subdivision regulations. Claude Arnold spoke saying that greenspace
requirement was not in effect when one and two completed, that the acre for retention
area can be met, one lot. Larry Green raised again the question regarding using
retention pond as recreational/greenspace, said he has the same concerns as brought
up earlier. Tim Kant said using the retention pond is not a good idea. Mr. Lunsford
commented that there was a masterplan presented but only one and two were
approved. It was discussed using lot 13. Further discussion led to a motion being
made by James P. Nix to give preliminary approval subject to all recommendations
being followed and using lot 13 as required greenspace area. Bill Jones seconded and
motion carried with Larry Green voting no.
There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned.