HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-07-1997 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday, July 7, 1997
at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street at 5:00 PM.
Present: Chairman Larry Green; members Dick Charles, Cecil Pitman, Tim Kant, Cindy
McBrearty, Debbie Quinn, Thad Ingram, Bob Lunsford, ZEO and Betty Rivenbark,
Secretary
The minutes of the June 2, 1997 meeting were duly considered and approved as
written on motion by Cecil Pitman, seconded by Debbie Quinn and unanimously
carried.
Crown Point Final Plat approval of 16 lots Harry King located on US Hwy 98 in
Barnwell. Mr. Lunsford's comments were asked for and he said that preliminary
approval was given in September 1996 and no new streets had been added and they
are going to have underground sewage approved by the Baldwin County Health
Department. Water service is available. He recommended final approval subject to
County Engineer's approval prior to recording. A Randy Earp from Stiffer Engineers
was present to answer questions. A Timothy Harrison asked if with ownership change
any changes made since last meeting. Mr. Earp said no changes same plans and
same restrictions. Tim Kant moved to approve per Bob's recommendations, Dick
Charles seconded and motion carried unanimously.
Point Clear Woods - Resubdivision Lots 10 & 11. This was an application for
preliminary and final plat approval of 2 lots by Jack Ponder. Bob had commented that
both lots 10 and 11 increased in area and the storm water detention area has been
increased, that this has been certified by an engineer. That pending County approval
he recommended preliminary and final approval. A Scott Hutchinson was present from
McCrory & Williams. There were no questions from the audience or commission and
Cecil Pitman moved to approve subject to Bob's comments. Cindy McBrearty
seconded and motion carried unanimously.
Quail Run Preliminary Plat approval 22 lots located at Hwy 27 and Quail Creek Drive,
SE. Bob's comments were that the owner has filed a petition for annexation with the city
under provision of Section 8.81 of the zoning ordinance. Lots will be used for patio -
garden development. He will have city sewer and double frontage lots will require
screening. Drainage calculations have been submitted and certified and detention
areas will be done by the property owners. That the plat and plans appear in order and
he recommended preliminary approval subject to pre -construction conference. Bob
noted further that no building permits will be issued until all improvements have been
installed, bond posted and the acceptance by the city for maintenance. Water and tap
fees will have to be paid in full for each lot at time of permitting. Bob recommended
approval subject to a pre -construction meeting. Craig Reed was present and spoke
saying he had met all requirements but would be glad to answer any questions. A
gentleman asked how big the lots were and where the drainage would go on the east.
Mr Reed replied that there would be filling added and the water would run to the
detention pond and run parallel to channel that runs through the property now.
Mr. Reed was asked what about front lots if road 4-laned. Tim remarked that County
requirement now is 80 ft. but he is asking to annex into city. He was asked what are his
selling prices and commented that he would be glad to discuss this in private after the
meeting. Debbie asked about landscaping and he said he is planning landscaping and
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a privacy fence that will run all along Quail Creek Drive. Cindy said that he has met all
the requirements if the road widens in 10-15 years it is not our problem. Cindy moved
for preliminary approval subject to Bob's recommendations, before voted on Tim asked
if the driveway was from the front and Mr. Reed remarked yes, and he said he worked
with the city hand in hand on drainage retention area. Tim Kant seconded the motion.
Mr. Green read a letter from Quail Creek Joint Venture that said they objected to the
name chosen, Quail Run, that this would be confused with Quail Creek Estates and the
golf course. It was pointed out that we had no say so over the naming of the subdivision
but the road had been named Covey Run Place. Cecil Pitman said he was personally
alarmed by the density and the small homes planned for this R3 pgh. Dorothy Givens
said she lived directly across from this and objected to having 22 homes directly in front
of her. Matt Dial voiced objection to his use of "Quail", Larry Green said he should
have a private conversation with Mr. Reed about this. A vote was called for and was as
follows: For: McBrearty, Quinn, Kant, Ingram, Green Against: Pitman, Charles motion
carried. An addendum was added at the 9/4/97 meeting as follows: As discussed
briefly at subject meeting on 7/7 this member of the Commission has genuine concern
with the potential traffic safety design of routine ingress/egress from Covey Run Place
the one and only access from subject property. Even though this short street may meet
subdivision regulation requirements, it is still what I consider to be a set up for a severe
accident. Covey Run is parallel to and less than 200 ft. South of Quail Creek Drive.
This represents less than 3 seconds of travel at current speed limit of 45 mph. There is
presently no provision for turn -in or turn -out 3`d lane access for acceleration/decelera-
tion. I would consider this poor traffic safety design under two-lane criteria, and would
be exacerbated by future four -lane expansion.
Public Hearing 54 So. Greeno Road - Zoning Change from B-4 Business/Professional
to B-2 General Business 54 So. Greeno Road property of Carl J. Schneider. Bob had
commented that the subject property has been zoned B-4 for many years and has
served as a buffer between the general business to the east of Greeno Road and the
single family uses along Pleasant Street. That he is unable to recommend approval of
this application since he is not convinced that it is in conformity with the neighborhood
or the city as a whole. He said he had talked to Mr. Schneider earlier in the day and
Mr. Schneider said he might wish to withdraw but he sees he is present. Mr. Schneider
came forward and said he wished to proceed. He said he had two tenants, professional
businesses. One with 10 employees that would see in home patients, that the problem
arises where the ordinance said they cannot sell supplies out of the office. Larry Green
pointed out to him that the suggested use sounded compatible but a zoning change is
forever, once changed to B-2 he might sell and anything can go in. Comments from the
audience followed: Rev. Hughes was against, Mrs. McClintoc presented a petition(in
file) from neighbors. Angelo Allegri said he had 30 years invested in his home, does not
want it, a neighbor within 300 ft of the property said he did not want it. Hop Allen said
he has said before we need to put landscaping and a buffer zone between businesses
and residential property. A Mrs. Pitman said she had not been notified and questioned
why? After hearing all the comments Mr. Green called for a motion and Tim Kant
moved to forward on to City Council with recommendation of denial, Cecil Pitman 2"d
Motion carried unanimously.
There being no further business meeting was duly adjourned.
There was no meeting held in August 1997.