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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-03-1995 Planning Commission MInutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday, July 3, 1995 at 5:00 PM at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street Present: Vice -Chairman Maxwell Killoch; members Tim Kant, Cindy McBrearty James P. Nix, Layton Overstreet, Debbie Quinn. Betty Rivenbark Secretary and Bob Lunsford, Zoning Officer The minutes of the June 5, 1995 meeting were duly approved on motion by Debbie Quinn seconded by Cindy McBrearty Southside Business Park - Con'd from June 5 - Application of Charles Breland for Preliminary Plat Approval-10 commercial lots on Greeno Rd. Seth Moore represented Mr. Breland saying he had brought back again this and showed 3 turnouts and is asking for 1 additional curb cut for access to the develop- ment for the service road. He said he has shown this to Bob Lunsford. Mayor Nix asked if this is all that we are considering now, Seth said yes, he plans to put modular homes to the rear of this development later. -Tim Kant sai he would like to have Bob's opinion. Bob said 4 is not unreasonable and he recommended approval subject to approval from the Alabama Department of Transportation and the designation limitation of access being shown on the final plat approved for recording as conditions precedent to such approval. Also, that the developer is advised that off-street parking and loading/un- loading requirements will be required prior to issuance of any building permits. Mrs. McClantoc spoke from the audience saying that we should not be considering anything on Greeno Road until the comprehensive plan adopted, why are we approving this. It was explained that this is outside the city limits. She was told that if he satisfies the subdivision regulations there is no reason why he cannot do this, no zoning regulations in the county. Bud Henson asked what can city do, the Mayor said just zone in the city limits. That they had asked the state to give the cities the right to zone in the police jurisdiction and they consistently refused to do so. A Judy Carlburg asked what could the citizens do. They were told talk to their representatives. James P. Nix moved to approve subject to Bob's recommendations. Cindy McBrearty 2nd and motion carried with Tim Kant, Cindy McBrearty, James Nix, Layton Overstreet for the motion and Maxwell Killoch and Debbie Quinn against. Destrehan S/D - Preliminary Plat approval 67 lots, Harold Avant. Ack Moore spoke representing this. Mr. Moore said that this is in the city limits, they are going to have curb and gutter and is zoned R-2 and will have a holding pond. The big question is how does it impact Booth/Bishop Road. Ack showed the commission contour maps that showed the natural waterflow and said they have to design where no more water be on the land than what there now. A gentleman who owns land near this asked about the pond - Ack said it is going to be a dry pond, not hold water. Bob had withheld comment until further information provided. He had commented that he needed a general drainage plan showing all facilities and how they interrelate and a delineation of the drainage areas on the contour mapping(this is what he provided tonight) He also commented that to do anything which would increase the hazards associated with Booth/Bishop Road and its drainage was not in the interests of the Commission or the City at this time. Ack further said that they have de signed greater than pond capacity so no water would stand on the property. An Arston Grant spoke saying he is on the south property line and the way the waterflow is now there is a dry creek bed, his concern is whether or not this will be marsh all the time. James Nix asked Ack how long would it take to empty the pond, Ack responded at peak runoff 21 minutes.. Tim asked about the planned planted area at the entrance,would they plant & maintain, yes It was asked what planned about sidewalks and the developer said he is putting them in. Bob said he saw no residual problems. Tim Kant moved to give preliminary approval, Cindy McBrearty seconded and motion carried unanimously Idlewild-Unit 1 Application of FSTC/Sara Klumpp for 8 lots along Thompson Hall Road at Cty Rd 48(pending zoning change) Bob had commented that plat and plans appear to be generally in order. Jeff Kennedy addressed the commission and said he represented ABK Development/Mrs. Klumpp and is here to answer questions. Tim Kant suggested preliminary approval subject to zonii change. Debbie Quinn 2nd and motion carried unanimously. F, Campbell Estates Preliminary and final approval was being sought for this 3 lot subdivision located on the south side of Fairhope Avenue some 200 ft. east of Clay City Road outside the city limits. Bob recommended approval subject to health department and county approval. Tim Kant moved for approval, Maxwell Killoch seconded and motion carried unanimously. Havel Estates A 3 lot subdivision on the south side of Fairhope Avenue some 900 ft east of Clay City Road outside the city limits was considered. Bob recommended approval subject to health department and county approval. Max- well Killoch moved to approve subject to Bob's recommendations, William Rich- mond seconded and motion carried unanimously. Crescent Point 13 lots on the north side of County Road 1 at Fish River Point. Final plat approval was recommended by Bob subject to 1. health department and county approval; 2. A prominent note on the plat to the effect that all buildings must conform to the flood damage prevention ordinance/s; 3. that the wetlands area be prominently shaded and a note affixed to the effect that no fill may be placed therein without written approval of the Corps of Engineers; 4. a certificate of lienholder(if any) appearing on the plat. Bob's comments were noted(attached) and William Richmond moved to approve subject to 4 things outlined. Maxwell Killoch seconded and motion carried unanimously. Gainswood Unit 1 This is a 45 lot subdivision of Kimmer Development Co. Preliminary approval was being sought. This is outside the city limits. Bob had commented that the plat was in good order but the engineering plans relative to stormwater retention were not complete at the time of his writing. He recommended that the county stormwater management could apply. Possibly hold over until next meeting. Frank Crawford of McCrory & Williams spoke asking for preliminary approval subject to County Engineer's approval. Tim Kant moved to grant preliminary approval subject to county engineer's approval on stormwater. Maxwell Killoch seconded and motion carried unanimously. Green Island Estates An informal review of proposed 26 lots on the south side of Fairhope Avenue submitted by Lee Stahl for use as patio garden homes. Tommy Harris spoke for the Stahls. He said they are doing a feasibility study and that these homes would contain some 12-1400 square feet. He said they are looking real close at the stormwater detention and that this will determine whether they will go forward with the project. No action was needed but they were encouraged to proceed. Bay Meadows West - 12 lot subdivision of Rudolph Khrut for preliminary and final approval on the north side of existing Bay Meadows Avenue. Bob had commended that the plat was in order and he recommended preliminary and final approval. James P. Nix moved for approval, Maxwell Killoch seconded and motion carried unanimously. Mrs. Stanfield spoke saying she objected to what proposed, that they have 12 houses now on 1-2 acre lots and what proposed is not in keeping with the neighborhood, since this has been paved it has become a thoroughfare. Bob pointed out that it meets the subdivision requirements and we cannot turn it down because of complaints, we cannot dictate how they develop the property. They asked what they could do to protest further and they were advised to see a lawyer. Mrs. Stanfield said she wished they would have 1 street and all lots exit on this street and then go to main thoroughfare. She was told we had no control over this. It was brought out that they meet R-1 requirements and plan homes with 1500 square feet of living area. The Homestead Bob had commented that the owners propose a change in the preliminary plan to increase the density and change the use proposed as set out by relocating the CALF buildings from the northeastern part to the eastward portion and nine condominium single family structures be incorporated in the site. Further that the architect has certified that the total site density allowable will not be exceeded by the inclusion of those units. He recommended approval with final plan submission by September meeting. Tim Kant moved to revise preliminary plan, Maxwell Killoch seconded and motion carried unanimously. Planning & Zoning Commission - Page two July 5, 1995 Idlewild - Unit 2 Application of FSTC/Sara Klumpp for 34 lots along the sout side of Cty Rd 48 near Thompson Hall Rcl(area pending zoning change) Bob had commented plat and plans appeared in order and recommended preliminary approval with the establishment of legal entity for maintenance of off street stormwater facilities and pre -construction conference. James P. Nix asked why 2 presented now, Jeff said in Unit 1 all utilities in place except sewer and they can work very quickly, also they will require sidewalks. There was some question as to R-1 or R-2 being asked for in Phase 2 but Bob said there was little difference - R-1 being the more restrictive with 40 ft. front yard and R-2 with 35 ft. front yard. James P. Nix moved Layton Overstreet 2nd approval subject to Bob's recommendations. Under old business - Bob had attached 2 letters(in file) regarding Old Orchar Estates- the County Engineer has approved 50 ft. street rights of way and regarding South Bayou Circle - County Engineer said subdivision lies in zoning district 26 and that the county will not allow plat to be filed or con- struction to begin until the plat conforms to zoning district requirements of county. There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned.