HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-07-2004 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Tuesday,
September 7, 2004 at 5:OOPM in the City Administration Building, 161 N.
Section Street.
Present: Dick Charles, Chairman; Tim Kant, Dan McCrory, Bob Clark, Larry
Green, Jean Wilson, Ed Brinson, Mike Ford. Christopher Baker, Director of
Planning & Zoning, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary. Absent: Lee Turner
The minutes of the August 2, 2004 meeting were considered and duly
approved on motion by Bob Clark, 2"d by Ed Brinson and unanimously
carried.
SR04.06 Site Plan Review request of Regan Scroggins for a proposed
restaurant was withdrawn. Mr. Baker explained that if 30% of the lot was
impervious it would require review by commission but the plans have been
revised and reduced below this trigger so there is no need for review and
the building permit has been issued.
SD04.61 Replat request for Southside Business Park (Generally located
east of Greeno Rd just south of Cypress Lane) This involves 3 lots in
Southside Business Park with the property being located outside the city
and normally would not come before the commission but Dr. Sherling has
purchased 3 lots and wishes to do away with the common drive that was
required by the Commission in 1995. Mr. Baker's recommendation was to
approve with the understanding that additional buildings should have their
own lot and that additional curb cuts would not be permitted for these
additional buildings. Cindy Rue and Raymond Abraham spoke to the
commission and were asked about additional businesses and they said
they knew of none, just the one planned by Dr. Sherling. Further discussion
led to a motion by Larry Green to approve with note on plat that further
subdivision would not allow more than the existing one curb cut for
egress/ingress. Bob Clark 2nd the motion and it carried unanimously.
SD04.52 Preliminary Plat The Villas of Quail Creek Phase 5(Generally
located south of the Clubhouse) Mr. Baker said Ack Moore is representing
Quail Creek Joint Venture in this request and the property is zoned R3PGH.
He said all issues have been met or agreed to and he recommended
approval. He mentioned that we did ask with this phase to run the street
through to Lake Ridge drive and the developer wants to not do this. Mr.
Baker also mentioned he had a letter from Alan Pate requesting we not
require this. It was brought out this would require passing two greens( 10 &
17) and a tee box. Discussion followed on whether or not we should require
road cut through. Mayor Kant said this was originally part of deed agreement
but that the city would have to pay for cost of road and he could not support
it at this time. Larry Green said in the 8 years he has been playing there he
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has never observed a ball going 10-12 feet off of the green that maybe we
should put up a barrier like they did at the Grand Hotel. Mike Ford asked
what the problem was and was told connectivity, the length of the street
exceeds the normal block length, causes problems. Seth Moore offered that
if the street is cut through we would lose 1/3 of #10 green and the pines
behind #17. Further discussion led to a motion by Tim Kant to give
preliminary approval without road installment. Jean Wilson 2"d the motion
and it carried by the following vote: For motion: Kant, McCrory, Clark,
Brinson, Ford, Wilson. Against motion: Green, Charles.
SD04.53 Preliminary Plat request of Wood lawn (Generally located west of
State Highway 181 South of Twin Beech Rd) Mr. Baker said Elite
Development is being represented by EDS in this request. His
recommendation was to approve with understanding that traffic study will be
required with the next phase. The property is approximately 34.4 acres and
they propose to divide it into 81 lots. He said a stub is being provided to the
east of the property that fronts on 181, which is the real issue. He said all
requirements have been met. David Diehl spoke for EDS. Mr. Charles
asked about potential flooding on lots 58, 75, 77 . Mr. Diehl said this would
not be a problem. Dan asked how they plan to feed water to this
subdivision. Christopher Baker in his comments had said the sewer will be
extended from Cty Rd 13 to the east and possibly loop the line. Mr. Diehl
said he could not say if the folks with Phoenix would grant an easement.
The question was asked if Phoenix was notified (adjacent property owners
are notified thru due process). Dan said they do want to loop the water.
Dick Charles asked about tabling this for 30 days. The question was asked
what were we looking for if we table it and answered reserving the right of
way and providing two stubs to the east. Dan asked how we would get 2"d
feeder line and it was suggested an access road. Further discussion led to a
motion by Bob Clark to table for 30 days to get all answers, see if adjacent
property owners would be agreeable to easements for looping the water line
and clarification on easements/access/ROW to 181. Larry Green 2"d the
motion and it carried by the following vote: For motion: Kant, Clark, Green,
McCrory, Charles, Ford. Against: Wilson, Brinson.
SD04.54 Final Plat approval Quail Creek Phase 4B(Generally located just
west of Lawrence Rd at the back of Quail Creek) Mr. Baker said Ack Moore
is representing Quail Creek Joint Venture. This phase contains 15.65 acres
and 36 lots and is zoned R2. He said all issues have been met and he
recommended approval as requested. Larry Green said it looks great. Mr.
Moore asked about putting a temporary gate at the location. The
commission agreed as long as a note is put on the plat that it is temporary.
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Larry Green moved for approval, Dan McCrory 2"d the motion and it carried
unanimously.
SD04.59 Request of Baldwin County Commission for 11.52.11 of the
Kirkman/New Era Sewer Improvements(Generally located on Kirkman
and New Era) Chris Baker said that the City and County Commission have
worked hand in hand to secure a grant for the extension of the public sewer
system in this area. He recommended approval. Larry Green moved to
approve, Ed Brinson 2"d the motion and it carried unanimously.
SD04.6ORequest of Baldwin County Commission for 11.52.11 review of
a Fiber Optic Project. Mr. Baker said the Baldwin County Commission is
installing fiber optic lines along Fairhope Avenue to link facilities and will
enhance voice and data communication between the county facilities. He
said this is for fiber optic and the conduit is not engineered for fluid or gas.
He said the county will maintain two conduits. He recommended approval
subject to the contractor coordinating with the Water and Sewer and Gas
Department. Tim Kant moved for approval, Ed Brinson 2"d the motion and it
carried unanimously.
SD04.35 Staff Report on stormwater pump for Magnolia Place. Mr.
Baker said at the direction of the commission at the June meeting he has
called Gulf Shores, Daphne, Baldwin County, Mobile and Foley and in each
case no one has knowledge or use of stormwater pumps. He said he has
not found anyone on the gulf coast. Ack Moore spoke up and said they use
them in New Orleans. Dick Charles said we need to have some basis to
make a decision before the 90 days is up. Doug Harless spoke and said he
had papers from Jim House and Assoc. and that they would have a
homeowners association with part reserved for maintenance. Dan asked
what is going to happen 10 years down the road, what if homeowners
dissolve association. He said they have a 10 year life. Tim Kant asked at
what level does the pump kick in. He also said we need a letter from the
county that they will accept this type of system. Dan said the quality is
good, that is not the problem, he said that maintenance has to be steady to
keep life expectancy and somewhere down the road he sees us having to
take over the system and parts are expensive.
Ed Brinson was asked to serve as nominating committee chair for election of
officers at the October meeting.
Meetin was duly adjourned at 6:15.
retty ivenbark, Secretary Richard N. Charles, Chairman