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HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-04-2004 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday, October 4, 2004 at 5:00 PM at the City Municipal Complex, 161 N. Section Street, in the Delchamps Room. Present: Dick Charles; Dan McCrory, Bob Clark, Larry Green, Jean Wilson, Lee Turner, Ed Brinson. Christopher Baker, Director of Planning & Zoning, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary. Absent: Tim Kant, Mike Ford The minutes of the September 7, 2004 meeting were considered and duly approved with two corrections on motion by Larry Green 2"d by Jean Wilson and unanimously approved. ZC04.07 Public Hearing to consider the request of Montrose Properties for a zoning change from RA Residential Agricultural to R1 Single Family Residential for 24 acres( generally located east of Cty Rd 13 south of Morphy Avenue) Mr. Baker said EDS was representing Montrose Properties in, this application and the property is located in the city. He said the developer has furnished a master plan for informational purposes. He recommended approval. The public hearing was opened and closed with no comment. Larry Green moved to recommend approval of zoning change to the city council. Ed Brinson 2"d the motion and it carried unanimously. ZC04.08 Public hearing to consider the request of Ms. Wainwright for a zoning change from R2-Single Family Residential to Parking(Generally located at 663 Horn Lane)Mr. Baker commented that this is 15,000 ft parcel on Horn Lane now zoned R2 and the change is for P1 Parking and it is tied in with next case. Thomas Hospital wishes to purchase the property and construct a parking lot for employees. He recommended approval due to large scale positive impact growing hospital would have on the community and said this ties in with next case and suggested the public hearing be together but vote separate. ZC04.09 Public hearing request of Mr. Harris for zoning change from R2 Single Family to P1 Parking(Generally located south of Morphy and west of Ingleside) Mr. Baker said this is 3.9 acre parcel of property. His recommendation was the same as above parcel. He said drainage is a big issue but the hospital plans to put in pervious parking lot. The public hearing was opened and Owen Bailey spoke on the hospital's behalf citing growth issues, number of employees they now have and patients cared for this year. He said they have already moved some clinics off site and now shuttling 100 employees a day. He said they are very conscious of drainage and will plan accordingly and plan calls for low lighting and buffers, that they plan to save as many trees as they can. Possible security for area was mentioned. He was asked about parking deck and said that they would rather spend money on clinicals at this point but it is not off of the table. The limited access on Horn was mentioned. It was determined this would need Planning & Zoning Commission October 4, 2004 - Page Two further study before plans finalized. John Borom spoke saying he is at bottom of hill, concerned about drainage and is against proposal, this same parcel was denied change due to environmental issues and they have not changed. Further if you pave a slope there will be additional runoff as well as additional traffic, not a good proposal. Christopher Baker mentioned that the project would have to meet pre- development runoff and runoff released at different times. Alexander Dortch spoke saying Horn Lane is a good neighborhood. Warner Wiggins spoke saying the hospital has made choices over the years, against. Dr. Bill Goetter spoke saying he supports it the health care institute is landlocked. Carolyn Borom spoke asking what stops domino effect if they wish to expand again. The public hearing was closed. Larry Green said he understands the feelings of both sides but we should look at what is best for the community in the long run. He then moved to recommend approval to the city council as per staff recommendation, Ed Brinson 2"d the motion. Jean Wilson said she is concerned that now on Horn Lane you can not get two vehicles down there at one time. Motion carried with the following vote: For: Green, McCrory; Clark, Charles, Turner, Brinson, Against: Wilson. The vote was held for ZC04.09 with a motion being made to approve zoning change and recommend same to city council by Larry Green, 2"d by Ed Brinson, motion carried unanimously. SD04.35 Preliminary Plat of Magnolia Place/Doug Harless(Generally located north of Gayfer Ave Ext., west of Cty Rd 13) Mr. Baker pointed out to the commission that this was tabled at the July meeting at the request of the developer to allow further exploration of the issues surrounding the use of the stormwater pump. He pointed out that even though these are the same ones used by the sewer department now, the Planning Commission will set precedent by allowing pumps and questions exist on who will maintain the pumps ten years down the road. His recommendation was to deny in order to revise subdivision regulations. Dan McCrory pointed out if pump breaks it is expensive to fix and mentioned long term maintenance. Tim Garner, attorney for Mr. Harless spoke asking if the commission had read the report from Thompson engineering (they had). Christopher Baker told Mr. Garner that we don't have any rules that allow storm pumps, that we would need to revise the subdivision regulations and address the long term maintenance issues, we would be setting a precedence if approve tonight. Mr. Garner said the detention pond is oversized, and that they may or may not use the money put in escrow, that the homeowner's association would include fees that put money in escrow for continued maintenance. The Chairman asked Dan McCrory to chair a sub -committee to propose a change in the subdivision regulations to cover stormwater pumps. He also Planning & Zoning Commission October 4, 2004 — Page Three suggested motion to deny without prejudice to allow 60 days for subcommittee to study and make a recommendation as to what best for the city. Mr. Harless asked if his engineer could serve on the committee and Mr. McCrory said he had no problem with that. A motion was made by Mr. McCrory to deny without prejudice the preliminary plat. Lee Turner 2"d the motion and it carried unanimously. SD04.53 Preliminary Plat of Wood lawn (Genera I ly located west of State Hwy 181, south of Twin Beech Road) Mr. Baker said that EDS is representing Elite Development in this request and contains approximately 34.4 acres to be divided into 81 lots located outside the.city. This was considered at the September meeting and tabled to answer two questions: Water -the water needed to be looped, how was this going to be accomplished? Access to Hwy 181-Where and how was access to Hwy 181 going to be provided to the east and would the owners be agreeable to an access easement? He recommended approval with the understanding that traffic study will be required with the next phase. He said further that there was a letter from Mr. Diehl responding that the water would be looped so this is no longer an issue and that Mr. Diehl could not get the property owner to the east to agree to anything. The developer is providing a stub to the east to property that fronts Hwy 181. Further discussion led to a motion by Jean Wilson to approve as per staff recommendation with understanding that traffic study would be required with next phase. Dan McCrory 2" d the motion and it carried unanimously. SD04.56 Preliminary Plat of Pelican Park/Mr. King(Generally located east of Cty Rd 1, north of Cty Rd 27 near Mary Ann Beach Road) Mr. Baker said this contains some 9.97 acres located outside the city and seven lots are proposed. He said lot 7 has access to water and sewer and that only one curb cut is proposed for the development, all issues have been met or agreed to and recommended approval. Larry Green moved to approve as presented, Dan McCrory 2"d the motion and it carried unanimously. SD04.57 Preliminary Plat of Edington Place Phase 1/Montrose Properties(Generally located east of Cty Rd 13 south of Morphy Avenue) Mr. Baker said this is a three acre parcel that is part of the larger 24 acres that was considered for rezoning on the October agenda and is phase 1 of a larger development, that 6 lots are proposed with this development. He said all issues have been met or agreed to and recommended approval as presented. He also noted that the plat could not be signed until this was approved by the city council. A motion was made by Dan McCrory to approve. Larry Green 2"d the motion and it carried unanimously. Planning & Zoning Commission October 4, 2004 — Page four SD04.58 Preliminary Plat of River Station, Phase 3 (Generally located north of Fairhope Avenue east of Blueberry Lane) Mr. Baker said this is an 8.75 parcel of land outside the city and they are proposing 27 lots in Phase 3. He said all issues have been met or agreed to and he recommended approval. Mrs. Carney, an adjacent property owner, spoke to the commission saying she is concerned about drainage, that they had 9 acres and built in the corner of their acreage for privacy and now the proposed stub out for this subdivision backs up to their back stoop. She had county records showing county right of way on tax records. Mr. Moore said he had also researched tax records but did not have this. Discussion followed on proposed stub out in subdivision and a motion was made by Larry Green to approve the subdivision plat with the future right of way between lots 9 and 8 moved to lot 10 and that lots 11 and 12 be rotated 90* and a new right of way be established between lots 11 and 16. Bob Clark 2"d the motion and it carried with Ed Brinson abstaining to vote. Mr. Brinson reported he had canvassed the members on election of officers for the coming year and the recommendation was for Dick Charles to continue to serve as chairman and Jean Wilson to continue to serve as vice - chair and he so moved. Larry Green seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Meeting was duly adjourned at 6:30 PM J" pj-'t4j -' Betty Ri enbark, Secretary Richard N. Charles, Chairman