HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-05-1993 Planning Commission MinutesM E M O R A N D U M
TO: FAIRHOPE PLANNING COMMISSION
Meeting of: 05 APRIL 1993
THE WOODLANDS IN FAIRHOPE - UNIT 1 - Application of
Arthur Corte for preliminary subdivision plat approval of
23 Lots.
I have examined the plat and the construction plans and
submittals for this project and find the same to be in
substantial conformity with the regulations except that
there must be provided at the temporary end of Woodlands
Avenue a temporary turnaround as provided by Section
708.1 of the regulations.
Drainage design considerations are such that the post
development runoff and velocity will be equal to or less
than that of predevelopment. Developer's engineer advises
that the N.P.D.E.S. Permit Application is on file with the
Alabama Department of Environmental Management.
The streets, drainage, and water and sewer mains and
laterals will be constructed under the public assessments
program which is under the direction of Moore Engineering
Company, acting as the City's engineer of record for the
project. Moore is therefore certifying to the City that
the design fully conforms to the City's requirements.
The platting of lots, landscaping and electrical service
is not a part of the assessment program and not a part of
Moore's responsibility.
The engineering and surveying firm of Rester and Coleman
has been retained by the developer as site engineer and
it is they who have actually developed the plans certified
by Moore for on -site improvements, as well as work
excluded from the assessments program.
The performance bond required of the Contractor for
public assessments will obviate the need for the usual
developers bond for construction of improvements.
However, this shall not be construed as a waiver for
the two-year maintenance bond required by Chapter 19 of
the Code of Ordinances, and which must be posted before
the City accepts streets and utilities for maintenance.
I recommend that preliminary plat approval and license to
construct be give subject to the usual requirement for a
pre -construction conference before work is begun and
subject to requirement for temporary turnaround.
ROCK CREEK - A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT - Application
for Preliminary Approval of P.U.D.
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The entire site has been recommended for special zoning
as a planned unit development to the City Council.
The Preliminary Plan under consideration includes areas
reserved for future development. Since the development
largely consists of single family use where individual
lots will be conveyed, the subdivision regulations will
apply and a preliminary plat must be approved for the
construction of streets and utilities. The construction
is being performed under a public assessments program of
the City under the direction of Moore Engineering Company,
which is acting as the City's engineer of record for the
project. Moore is therefore certifying to the City that
the design fully conforms to the City's requirements for
streets, drainage and utilities. The platting of lots,
landscaping and electrical service are not a part of the
assessment program and not a part of Moore's
responsibility.
David Volkert and Associates is retained by the developer
as site engineer and it is they who have actually
developed the plans certified by Moore for on -site
improvements, as well as work excluded from the public
assessments program.
I have examined the preliminary plan and written statement
and the same appears to be in substantial conformity with
the Ordinance requirements. Developer does request a
waiver of the general requirement of Section 6.52 (3) for
a 40 foot perimeter setback. I would recommend that the
request for waiver be granted and that the preliminary
plan be approved by the Commission, subject to a pre -
construction conference among the engineers, developer,
City's general superintendent, contractor and myself prior
to beginning construction.
The preliminary subdivision plat likewise appears to be in
conformity and I recommend that final approval and license
to construct be issued subject to the aforementioned
pre -construction conference.
Developer has undertaken clearing operations prior to the
letting of contract for assessments program in order to
expedite the work and it is not the city's intent to delay
clearing for pre -construction conference.
The drainage calculations and other documentation
presented for this project is very extensive. The review
of such a volume of information is beyond the scope of a
limited time review and public hearing. The information
is a matter of public record open to review by the public
as well as members of the Commission. I will be glad to
arrange for a meeting with you, the engineer and myself if
you desire more extensive review.
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To summarize the drainage criteria, the engineer has
assured me that the design is such that the post
development runoff will be equal to or less than that
of predevelopment. You may wish to call on the Engineer
to summarize his design for your information and as a
matter of record during the meeting.
Since the streets and utilities are under public
assessments and the control of the work is vested in the
City, the performance bonds required under the contract
will obviate the need for the usual developers bond.
However, it should be noted that, prior to acceptance of
streets and utilities for maintenance, the Performance
Bond will have to be extended to cover the two year period
after acceptance of the work and must be payable to the
City of Fairhope as required by the general ordinances of
the City.
HAWTHORNE GLEN - UNIT 1 - Application for Final Plat
Approval, 33 lots.
Based on inspection by the City's general superintendent
and laboratory test reports, it appears that streets and
utilities have been constructed in conformity with the
approved preliminary plans.
The Final Plat appears to be in substantial conformity
with the regulations and final approval for recording is
recommended.
It should be noted, however, that the acceptance of the
Plat for recording by this Commission does not in any way
imply acceptance of streets and utilities for maintenance
by the public. Such acceptance is by sole authority of
the City Council, by resolution. No building permits
shall issue until such acceptance has been made.
GAINSWOOD S/D - Submittal of 157 lots for informal plan
review, with proposed phased development.
Subject land is outside the City on Baldwin Co. Hwy. 27.
The County's regulations will likely require a minimum of
60 wide rights -of -way. Health department approval will be
required for underground sewage disposal. Stormwater
detention will be required to keep post development
runoff equal to or less than that of predevelopment.
N.P.D.E.S. Permit will be required. Construction plans
by Alabama registered professional engineer will be
required.
Informal plan review requires no vote or action by the
Commission.
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HUNTERS GLEN - Application fails to meet the requirements
for preliminary plat review and should be continued for
review at the May meeting at applicants option.
No plat can be considered for review until the Owners of
the land have executed an Owners Certificate on the face
of the Plat.
Future submittals should include construction plans by
an Alabama registered professional engineer where new
streets and/or utilities are proposed.
All plats within the extra -territorial jurisdiction
require the County Engineers approval thereon, as well
as endorsement by the Health Department.
All plats must include stormwater runoff calculations.
EAST FIELD S/D - Application of
for Preliminary and Final Plat Approval for six lots
on Grant Road at Lawrence Road, outside city.
It is noted that one house is presently under construction
at the east end of the property, on what is proposed as
Lot I.
It is recommended that no approval be given this plat
until there is presented written approval of all lots
by the Baldwin County Health Department.
FIRST ALABAMA BANK - Banks representative requests to
be heard on rescission of Agreement between the City
and Baldwin County Savings and Loan regarding non -access
to Pleasant Street (BCSL was predecessor in title to
First Alabama).
(The final action on rescission of the agreement which
grew out of zoning considerations in 1984 will likely have
to be made by the City Council. However, it is doubtful
if the Council will, or properly can, hear the request
without first having a report from the Planning Commission
thereon.)
Note: Application for zoning change by George McKean
is being continued at his request
Respectfully submitted,
Robert Lunsford
Planning/Zoning Officer
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The Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday,
April 5, 1993 at 5:00 p.m. at the City Administration Building, 161 N.
Section Street
Present: Richard Sanderson, William Lucey, Cindy McBrearty,
Cecil Pitman, Tim Kant, David Bishop, James P. Nix,
Robert Lunsford ZEO and Betty Rivenbark Secretary
The minutes of the March 1 regular session and 3/11/93 special session
were duly approved as written on motion by James P. Nix, seconded
by Cindy McBrearty.
A public hearing was held on The Woodlands, Unit 1, 23 lots being developed
by Arthur Corte . Mr. Lunsford's comments were considered (attached to
minutes) and he had recommended preliminary plat approval and license to
construct be given subject to the usual pre -construction conference before
work is begun and subject to temporary turnaround being included in plans
for Woodlands Avenue. Bob had further commented that Fly Creek was the
dividing line that property south of creek was being planned for residential
and north designed for commercial. Further that north is near commercial
property already so this would be a logical extension. - Cecil Pitman moved
to recommend approval of zoning as requested and forward on to City Council
with this recommendation. Tim Kant seconded and motion carried unanimously.
James P. Nix moved to approve preliminary plat subject to Bob's provisions.
David Bishop seconded and motion carried unanimously. Zoning request was -
Parcel A 50 acres ± being established as B-2 Commercial Development and
Parcel B 129 acres being established as R-2 Single Family Residential .
A public hearing was held on a parcel of land on the south side of Nichols
Street East of Greeno Road west of the V.F.W., application by Taney
Brazile with zoning requested as M-1 Light Industrial. Bob related that
the land to the south is B-2 and to the east is the V.F.W. that this would
be a logical extension in this area. Further discussion led to a motion by Tim
Kant to approve zoning as requested and recommend same to the City Council.
David Bishop seconded and motion carried unanimously.
Preliminary approval was being sought on Rock Creek the PUD at the north
end of town. Bob had commented that the subdivision regulations will
apply and preliminary plat must be approved for the construction of streets
and utilities, and construction is being performed under a public assessments
program. That David Volkert and Assoc. is the site engineer and they have
developed the plans and are working with Moore Engineering on on -site im-
provements and work excluded from the public assessments program. Bob
said he had examined preliminary plans and that they appear to be in order. J
They had requested waiver from 40 ft. perimeter setback requirement and
he had recommended waiver as R-1 rear yard setback would be 35 ft. Bo
had recommended preliminary plan approval w/waiver. Preliminary subdivision
plat was also recommended for approval subject to pre -construction conference.
Bob mentioned further that he had further plans on drainage calculations
that can be viewed by the commission and public if they so desire but the
volume prohibited limited time review before this meeting. A motion was made
by Cecil Pitman to approve preliminaries requested subject to adhering to
Bob's comments. Cindy McBrearty seconded and motion carried unanimously.
Application of Hawthorne Glen -unit 1 for final approval was sought. Bob
had written that the final pat appears to be in substantial conformity with
the regulations and final approval for recording is recommended. He noted
that he needs certification on as -built plans he has. James P. Nix moved
to approve for final subject to certification being put on as built plans.
Tim Kant seconded and motion carried unanimously.
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Hunter's Glen subdivision was discussed. Bob had written that this application
failed to meet the requirements for preliminary plat review and should be con-
tinued for review at the May meeting . Also, that no plat can be considered
for review until the owners of the land have executed an owners certificate
on the face of the plat and construction plans by an Ala. registered
professional engineer where new streets and/or utilities are proposed submitted
the County Engineer's approval on all plats within the extra -territorial
jurisdiction and health department endorsement. Carlton Niemeyer was present
and took exception to what Bob had asked for. He said he had read the
subdivision regulations and had been unable to find anything that is not in
compliance. Mr. Lunsford disagreed, further stating that there are require-
ments applicable other than the subdivision regulations - matters of state and
federal laws and regulations. Further discussion led to a motion by Tim Kant
2nd by Richard Sanderson to hold over until next meeting as suggested. Mr.
Niemeyer asked that the minutes reflect that he disagreed with Mr. Lunsford.
Gainswood a subdivision of 157 lots for informal plan review was discussed.
Bob had commented that this land is outside the city on Baldwin Cty Hwy 27.
That we will need health department approval and county would probably
require 60 ft. rights of way and stormwater detention. He listed other
requirements and had noted no action was needed on this tonight.
Preliminary and final approval of Eastfield a six lot subdivision located at
Grant Rd at Lawrence road outside the city was discussed. This had been
on the agenda at least 2 times before but was held over because we did not
have health department approval. The plat presented tonight did have it
and Bob had recommended preliminary and final approval. A Wayne Hill
spoke saying that the lot size and house under construction are way below
what is in the area and that they are afraid it will devalue their property.
That he feels the sewage runoff will be a health problem, that the increased
runoff is already creating problems now. It was noted that this is outside
the city limits and we have no land use control as long as it meets require-
ments of subdivision regulations. Seth Moore spoke representing the owner
Mrs. Corrente, he said the plans of the house he mentioned were for 1300 ft,
and that the health department had approved the field lines, that what
proposed is natural drainage and the developer would terrace the lots as
he builds, that the natural drainage does go to Cowpen Creek. Ernest
Gabel spoke saying the septic tank pad is within 100 ft of him, and that they
are proposing to put too many houses on that small a piece of property.
Seth noted that Mr. Gabel and Mr. Hill are on city water, and that extra
tests were made by the health department to show that the drainfield could
fit on the lot, they even moved the lot line over 5 ft. on the east side of
the subdivision. It was noted again that we do not have right to say how
many lots on property. Richard Sanderson moved to give preliminary and
final approval to subdivision as requested. Cindy McBrearty seconded and
motion carried with David Bishop opposed. Mayor Nix asked if each one
would require health department approval and the answer was yes.
The request to be heard by First Alabama Bank .had- been withdrawn.
George McKean had requested his zoning change be continued until a later date
Mr. Killoch's letter regarding the siltation in Fly Creek, the overall masterplan
and limited access to Hwy 27 was discussed. Bob said he is prepared to conta4
the County engineer regarding stormwater development act and would look at
and adopt if they have it ready. On Highway 27 he agreed they need to
improve the road at some point in time.
Tim request that he would like for the commission to consider having sidewalks
put in masterplans in subdivisions, make sure temporary turnarounds are
included in plans and that signs and street markings are erected before we
give final approval on subdivisions. No action was taken on this.
There being no further business, meeting was duly adjourned.