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THE FAIRHOPE PLANNING AND _ZONING CO`MISSI_ON
Minutes for Meeting; June 7, 1976
The Fairliope Planning and 'Zoning Commission met in regular session on
;Monday, June 7, 1976 at 5:00 P.M., at the City Administration IMilding,
387 Fairhope Avenue, Fairhope, Alabama,with Chairman John S. Parker presid'-.
ing.
The following members were present: :Mayor James P. Nix, 'Mr.. Chester
Billie, Mrs. Leona Newman, Mr. Jack Kirk, Mr. Cecil Pitman, and Ur..Pierce
Fredrick. Also present was South Alabama Regional Planning Consultant, Mr.
Don Pruitt.
Absent from the meeting: Mr. Harf-ord field and Mr. Barney Shull.
I•layor'James P. Nix moved, seconded by Mrs. Leona Newman,to approve
the minutes of the May 3, 1976, regular meeting. I•lotion carried.
r. The first item brought before the Commission was the application of
Mr. Sam W. Irby for a change in Zone from R-2 Medium Density Single Family
District to B-4 Business and Professional Offices District the property
identified as Lots 16, 17, 20, and 21, Block 16, of the Volanta Subdivision.
This property is bordered on the north by Seminole and Pensacola Avenues, on
the south by Perdido Avenue and on the east by Section Street. Mr. Irby
stated that lie desired the change in zoning to B-4 in order to erect a
professional office building which will comply with the requirements of
B-4 zone, as stated in the Zoning Ordinance.
Many of the property owners within 300 feet were present at the
meeting:; to discuss the request of Mr. Irby. The ingress and egress of
traffic, the uses permitted in a B-4 zone and the type of building which
Mr. Irby will erect were some of the questions which adjacent property owners
discussed.
Chairman Parker asked for a show. of hands of those present who would be
effected by the rezoning in order for the Commission to have an input as to
how'many were in favor or opposed to the rezoning.
Mr. Cecil Pitman moved -to recommend to the City Council that Mr. Irby's
request for rezoning be approved subject to no ingress or egress of traffic
off of Section Street, and for final plans to meet with the approval of. the
Building Inspector. Mr. Chester Billie seconded the motion. The following,
vote was recorded: AYES; Mr. Chester Billie, Mr. Cecil Pitman and Mr. Jack:
Kirk. NAYES: Mrs. Leona Newman. ABSTAIN: Mayor Nix, and Dr. Frederick.
Motion carried.
II, The next item brought• before the Commission was the Subdivision
Application of Robert J. Potter and Beverly.J. Potter for Preliminary
approval of Linn -Ridge Subdivision; a subdivision of. 88.78.,acres, more or
less, into 31 lots. The property is located in Section,12, Township .6,
south, Range 2 East;.and is located on Alabama llighway •104 approximately
three and one half (3-1/2) miles east of the corporate limits;. Mr.' Robert,
Potter and Mr.'Ack Moore of Moore Engineering were present to represent
the application. Mr. -Cecil Pitman_ moved-to.grant Preliminary Plat Appro-
val of the Linn-RidF e Subdivision for Units 1 and 2 subject to..(1) a
written notification to the Commission from the County(to be sutured by
applicant) that they will accept it for maintenance, and (2) that the
adjacent property owners he notified by the,Commission so that they may
be present at the next meeting of the Planning Commission if -they so desire.,
Mayor Nix seconded the motion. Motion carried.
III. The Application of Mattew P. Dial, Jr. and Doris S. Dial. .for Final.
Plat Approval of Commercial Park Subdivision; a r.,esurvey of part of. Vorchcster
Subdivision; located on the south side of I'iichols Street approi7n..itely.
343 feet west of the southwest corner of Greeno Road and Nichols Street was
the next item hrought before the Commission.
IMr. Matthew Dial and Mr. tick Iloore of Moore Eng;incering were present
to represent the application.
-" Mayor James P. Nix moved to grant Preliminary and Final Plat Approval
upon the po"sting; of a Bond for the installation of the Utilities and the
Streets, and securing a vacation of the Right -of. -Way from the City. Cecil
Pitman seconded the motion. Motion carried.
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Minutes for Meeting;, June 7, 1976
IV. Mr. Jack Cummings presented a Site Plan of a proposed multi -family
complex to be located on Church Street to the Commission, I1r. Cummings
stated that his proposed site meets all of the requirements of the Zoning;
Ordinance and his plans are to construct twenty-six (26) one (1) and
two (2) story apartments, one (1) and two (2) bedroom units, with two (2)
parking spaces per unit with all off-street parking.
After a discussion of Mr. Cummings proposed site -plans Mayor James
P. Nix moved to approve the Site -Development Plan as presented by Mr.
Jack Cummings. Dr. Pierce Fredricks seconded the motion. Motion carried.
V. Mr. Victor Glazner was present at the meeting to represent the St.
Lawrence Catholic Church on the proposed new assembly building to be
located on the St. Lawrence Catholic Church property.
Mr. Glazner stated that they would like to construct a multi -purpose
assembly building which would be ten (10) feet off the west property line
and on the setback line of Ann Street.
Mr. Glazner stated that he was present to get the Commission approval
of the location of the new building. Chairman Parker told Mr. Glazner
that final approval of the site location would have to come at the time
that the Building Permit was applied for, and that the Commission could
only comment on the building placement and required parking at this time.
Mayor James P. Nix moved to grant preliminary Site -Plan Approval of
the proposed building providing that the Final Plans are similar to those
presented at this time, and that the front and side yard requirements
are met according to the Zoning Ordinance, and with eighteen (18) additional
parking spaces to be provided. Cecil Pitman seconded the motion. Motion
carried.
VI. Chairman Parker read a letter to Commission members from Mr. Claude
Clark, Administrator of Thomas Hospital, stating his appreciation of the
Planning; Commission, for their efforts.
VIII. Mr. Carlton Niemeyer was present for an informal discussion on a
proposed subdivision application of 5.43 acres on Chestnut Street into
eighteen (18) lots. Mr. Niemeyer asked the Commission what problems would
be!presented regarding, the paving of the street and the water and sewer
line. The Commission told Mr. Niemeyer that the street will have to be
paved on an Assessment Program, and that if lie puts in the water and sewer they
could see no problems in approving his application for a subdivision,
once presented.
There being no further business to come before the Commission the
meeting was adjourned.
APPROVED
Respectfully submitted,
Lynn Adams, Secretary
Fairhope Planning Commission
BY THE COMMISSION ON _7//?/ 976
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..good sen.8e
tii,,.._are deeply concerned over
i'loi,g list of regulations propos-
2d by the State Board o€.Health
.o tighten controls.. over water
supply and sewage.: disposal
systems infuture subdivisions...
While we are in favor of main
aining good public, •health, we..
,vere under the impression that
.here are already enough pro-
ccts and programs under. way to,
ake care of that matter.
But apparently, the . State
3oard of -Health doesn't think so
ind, as a result of. so much
nterest in its new proposals, is
folding public hearings.
One ,of those hearings ,. held
agree.with him, that implemen-
Aation' of the proposed,
regulations at this time is "ill
advised" because of, long-range;
federal water and" sewer;
..development programs. in this'
,,,area'.'. He added that under the;
circumstances the cost effec-
tiveness of requiring community
sewer systems in all subdivisions
with 50 lots or more is
questionable. _
A. widely known Mobile`:
homebuilder, S.S. Steele, called'
the proposed. regulations "over -
regulatory and oppressive" and -
a. "gross usurpation of power"
on, the part of the Board of
Health.
sere this week, drew fire from a
., Bernie Shontell,.,president- of
,ombination, of homeb�uiiders,
the Homebuilders Association of
and developers and public of-
` Mobile, drew applause' when he;
said, `.`There is not one section of
:.x!.JJrick N. Tindal, a building
these regulations that does not.
fficial who spoke on behalf. of
need to be revised. It' is a totali
he" -Baldwin County Com-"".authorization
takeover." 'thei
aission, declared that -a par.-
Board of Health."
icular :section of. the proposed
, He claimed, wisely;' we feel,;
egulations . "will . effectively
.. that ls` and -use regulation.should'
aralyze. building- in. Baldwin
be enacted by elected officials!
'ounty.
instead of bureaucrats and
He was referring to new rules,
subdivision regulations' enacted
put, into force,-. that ,will
in 1973.are'sufficient.
rohibit all construction on
Another speaker at the hearing'
roperty that lies within the 50-
said, appropriately,;: "Shoving'
ear -flood stage. The 50-year-
''things down peoples', throats is
nod Sucre means the level to
tf
Each flood waters rise with a
'equency of once in 50 years.
That half -century flood level'at
=.zlf ;hoses is 10.4 feet and about
per cent of the homes being
,lilt now in Baldwin County are
dated in the coastal areas.
IN,-, must say that Tindal has a
point, and so does Richard
Pruitt, executive director 'of
ie South Athbama' Regional
fanning C' ffiAli'ssion.- ,
.pointe(l out an,-,
not democracy.. `
However; most. ±1opponents'
included somewhere in their.
statements that all parties.
should work together for
. something we can live with."
That is pretty much our own
attitude in this .matter. The!
Board of Health, is charged,with
protecting the public health but
there is no reason we know of
,why it shouldn't „incorporate
'
common sense in the implemen-
tation of ;ts task.
To: Fairhope Planning Commission
Members
The pending new State Board
of Health requirements for
water and sewer improvements
in subdivisions would have a
considerable effect on Fair -
hope subdivision regulations.
I encourage you to study the
attached material and be in-
formed when developers and
citizens of our community
ask you about -these topics.
John Parker
!Mobile Register Filday, June a, 1716 F
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By ROYCE HARRISON
Register Staff Reporter,
A lengthy- list of proposed
regulations drawn up by the State
Board of Health to tighten controls
• over water supply and sewage dis-
posal systems in future subdivisions
statewide faced -furious criticism
from dozens of outraged Mobile -area
I)omebuilders, land developers and
g.)vernment officials during a public's
hearing Thursday afternoon.
- One particular section of the propos-
ed .regulations "will. effectively
paralyze building in Baldwin County," _
said Kendrick N. Tindal, Baldwin
County building official, who spoke in
behalf of the Baldwin County Coin -
mission. Specifically addressing new
rules that will prohibit (if a acted) all i
construction on property that lies
within the 50-year flood sta , Tindal
said that about 70 per cent of all
homes being built now in Baldwin
County are located in coastal areas.
Other speakers noted that the 50-
year flood stage for Gulf Shores, for
exarn,-de, is 10.4 feet above sea level.
"The commission must oppose
these regulations," Tindal said. "I ad-
mit we must do something about sep-
tic tanks," he added later, but said
that "more equitable" . regulations
must be drafted.
Rich�tr•d D. Pruitt, executive direc-
tor of the South Alabama Regional
Planning Commission, said, "While
we concur in principle with the intent
of these regulations, implementation
is ill-advised at this time.::" because
of long-range federal water and sewer
development programs currently un-
der way in this area, because the cost-
effectiveness of requiring "communi-
ty sewerage systems" in all sub=
divisions with 50 lots or more is
questionable, and other reasons.
Other speakers were considerably
less kind than Pruitt and Tindal.
S. S. Steele, who owns the real es-
tate firm S. S. Steele & Co. Inc., called
the regulations "over -regulatory and
oppressive" and a "gross usurpation
of power" on the part of the Board of
Ifcal th. "Evan though the FIIA (Farm
Ilome Administration) and the VA
(Veterans Administration) have for
years required lot sizes of 15,000
square feet where public water is
available but public sewers are not,
and of 20,000 square feet where neither
is available, you have arbitrarily set
sizes of lots at 20,000 and 43,600 square
feet (one acre) respectively," Steele
heatedly stated. (The FHA and VA re-
quire those standards for lots where
septic tanks and/or private wells must
be used before approving applications
for home loans.)
"llomebuitders and homeowners
will suffer a great loss if these
regulations are enacted," Steele said,
and received a loud applause.
Another loud, long applause follow-
ed the president of the Homebuilders
Association of Mobile to his seat when
he closed his remarks with, "There is
not one section of these regulations
that does not need to be revised. It is a
total authorization .takeover by the
Board of Health," said Bernie
Shontell.
Saying that land -use regulations
should be enacted by elected officials
instead of bureaucrats and that
current subdivision regulations
enacted in 1973 "are sufficient,"
Shontell recommended changing the
regulations through cooperative effort
between the Board of Health, a
citizens advisory committee and
others.
Another speaker said, "Shoving
things down 'peoples' throats is not
democracy.'' Most opponents included
a statement such as,. "Let's work
together for something we can live
with," in their statements.
Clearly, local opponents are as up-
set'bN.,ause "no one in the industry
was consulted," as they are because
the proposed regulations will push the
price of new houses higher, some
speakers emphasized.
"One reason these regulations slap
people so hard is because of things
developers have tried to get away
with," said John R. Wible, an assis-
tant attorney general of Alabama and
attorney for the state Board of
Health's Environmental Health
Division, who headed the meeting. "In
the last few years they have taken any
route they can to try to beat us."
Both Wible and Cecil Cork, acting
director of the board's General Sanita- I
tion Division, explained that almost
all land in Alabama has a genuine
sanitation problem when septic tanks
are used. In north Alabama, un-
derground rock formations prevent
septic tank effluent from draining
safely enough below ground level, and
in south Alabama, high groundwater
levels push effluent to the surface.
Also, Cork explained that tine state
is being developed at an average rate
Of 10,000 acres per year, and "we are
experiencing more problems because
septic tanks are failing more often as
developers move to less suitable
land."
Wible further stated that the Board
of Health is empowered to establish
and enforce such regulations as it
deems necessary to protect public
health. Ile said the board's rehulations
are not law per se, but "have the
effectiveness of law," and that the
regulations could take effe(
tomorrow if the board voted them it
Curiously enough, as Cork pointc
out, the board does not even have I
hold public hearings — or let anyor
know beforehand - about ne
regulations -- before putting then
into effect. He did say. however, th;
board members decided to obta
some citizens' .input before makir
their final decision about this list c
regulations.
The list is being opposed statewide
according to Wible. Ile said that of
jections are so strong that a series t
public hearings has been set fc
different areas such as Birmingham
Etowah County "probably," Baldwi
County and others.
Mobile Countians can subrn
written statements through July 19 1
i W. T. Willis, director of the state
Environmental Health A(i
ministration, State Office Buildin!
Montgomery 36130.
Anyone interested in obtaining
copy of the regulations can write tl-
sarne address.
Of the estimated 200 person
attending thehearing, onl�j,a handh
urged that the regulations. ' ; ffec
Those proponents include,,,__xnow
_,,,
environmentalists and consel
vationists such as Mrs. Maris
Gardner of Chickasaw; Mrs. Nlyl
Jones of the Mobile Bay Audobo
Society, and Mrs. Verna Horn
chairman of the Environmental Con
mittee of the Alabama League
.Women Voters.
Mrs. Gardner said she and he
neighbors, even though they live o
high ground, have had constr
problems with septic tanks and the
"'ouz children had to go to doctors fc
penicillin• shots to stop skin infec
tions..."
But by far the most outspoken it
dividuals were homebuilders such a
John M. Howard, of Mobile Count,
who said "every small land develope
will be bankrupt in six months" if th
retiulations are enacted.
"It's going to be impossible t
decrease the Cott of hou.Sing if you tr
ple the cost of the lot," Howard sa i(
later adding. "It will give low an
middle income people three choices
either live with in-laws, pitch a tent o
live in government-sponsore
housin;