HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-01-2016 Planning Commission MinutesAugust l, 2016
Planning Commission Minutes
The Planning Commission met Monday, August 1, 2016 at 5 :00 PM at the City
Municipal Complex, 161 N. Section Street in the Council Chambers.
Present: Lee Turner, Chairperson; George Roberds, Vice-Chair; Jennifer Fidler; Bob
Clark; Bernie Fogarty; Jay Robinson; Hollie MacKellar; Kevin Boone; Jonathan Smith,
Planning Director; and Emily Boyett, Secretary
Absent: Tim Kant
Chairman Lee Turner called the meeting to order at 5:03 PM and announced the meeting
is being recorded.
The minutes of the July 5, 2016 meeting were considered and Bernie Fogarty moved to
accept the minutes as written and was 2nd by Bob Clark. The motion carried
unanimously.
SD 16.09 Public hearing to consider the request of Dewberry/Preble-Rish, LLC for
Preliminary Plat approval of Old Battles Village, a 21-lot subdivision, Steve
Pumphrey. The property is located on the north side of Old Battles Road, at the end of
Garrison Boulevard, Craftsman Avenue, and Musket Avenue. Mr. Smith gave the staff
report saying the subject property is currently zoned PUD (Planned Unit Development)
and consists of 13 .5 acres with 21 lots proposed. The PUD amendment was forwarded to
the City Council with a favorable recommendation on March 7, 2016; however, the
application has not been approved through the City Council process to date. Staff
recommendation is to approve contingent upon the following conditions:
1. The City Council approval of the Old Battles Village , Phase 2 PUD amendment
of the Master Plan.
2. The requirements of the traffic study shall be satisfied at the time of build out of
the first 21 homes within Old Battles Village, Phase 2.
3. The landscaping plan shall meet the approval of the Public Works Director.
4. The Operations and Maintenance Plans shall be amended to add the final
destination (ie. tributary, bay, etc.) that receives the storm water from the site.
5. The "Building Coverage" stated in the site data table shall be changed to the
"maximum allowable lot coverage" to clear up any potential confusion between
the plat and the PUD.
6. The not "25% of the rear yard" in the site data table shall be reworded to "25% of
the required rear yard."
7. The utility and drainage easements are larger than the allowed accessory structure
setbacks. No accessory structures can be constructed on drainage or utility
easements carrying storm water, pipes, conduit, etc.
Mr. Pumphrey was present to answer any questions.
Mr. Turner opened the public hearing.
Erik Goldschmidt of 516 Bartlett A venue -He has lived in Old Battles Village for 4
years and the roads are already deteriorating. He provided pictures of cracks in the main
entrance. He stated the subdivision's main entrance will become a construction entrance
for the new phase and it will ruin the roads. He noted concerns with traffic, safety, and
road maintenance.
Anthony Ghilardi of 586 Musket Avenue -He asked the Commission not to approve this
request without a separate construction entrance or holding someone accountable for
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repair to the existing roads. He stated the construction traffic for 177 lots will cause the
already failing roads to be destroyed.
Bob Gentle of 594 Musket Avenue -He asked what amenities will be built for the
subdivision and he suggested the developer should use the Alabama Power easement as
their construction entrance.
Having no one else present to speak, Mr. Turner closed the public hearing.
Mr. Pumphrey addressed the comments from the public hearing saying there will be two
access points for the development, one through Old Battles Village and one through
Huntington Woods. He explained Alabama Power has been difficult to work with in the
past; however, they will ask to use the power line easement as a construction entrance.
Mr. Pumphrey also stated the amenities will include a pool, cabana, tennis court,
basketball court, an open field, and lakes. Mr. Robinson questioned responsibility for
any damage to the roads during construction and Mr. Pumphrey responded the existing
roads are City right-of-ways. Mr. Robinson asked if a bond would be required for the
roads and Jason Estes of Preble-Rish, LLC explained bonds will be provided for the new
streets constructed but it is not typical for bonds to be issued on existing streets. Mr.
Turner asked how long the bonds are for and Mr. Smith responded 2 years. Mrs. Fidler
stated Phase I of this development sat vacant for several years prior to being developed
and that could be a contributing factor to the condition of the roads. She noted numerous
subdivisions have multiple phases to which construction traffic must pass through the
existing phases to reach the new sections. She suggested testing or documenting the
roads prior to new construction and then retesting during and after construction to
monitor the deterioration. Mr. Gentle asked ifTruland Homes had a bond before starting
to build in Phase 1 and Mr. Turner stated Truland Homes only purchased the lots and no
bond was needed. Mr. Ghilardi asked if subdivision streets are held to the same
standards as main thoroughfares and Mr. Smith stated he was not sure and Mrs. Fidler
would be better suited to answer. Mrs. Fidler said the City relies on the engineer of
record to verify the streets meet our requirements. Mr. Turner stated he would like to
make sure Alabama Power is contacted for a possible construction entrance via their
easement and Mr. Smith explained the Commission cannot mandate the developer to do
so but it is a good recommendation. Mrs. Fidler suggested the construction traffic could
utilize Craftsman A venue rather than the main entrance. Mr. Smith said the streets have
already been accepted by the City and they are public streets which can be used by
anyone. Mr. Boone said whoever tears the streets up needs to be responsible for fixing
them and Mr. Clark responded is the City's responsibility to maintain and repair them at
this point ifwe have already accepted them. Mrs. MacKellar asked what the timeline for
completion is for the remaining phases and Mr. Smith responded there is no sunset clause
for the development. Mr. Smith stated updated Subdivision Regulations and City
ordinances need to be in place to protect our citizens.
George Roberds made a motion to accept the staff recommendation to approve contingent
upon the following conditions:
1. The City Council approval of the Old Battles Village, Phase 2 PUD amendment
of the Master Plan.
2. The requirements of the traffic study shall be satisfied at the time of build out of
the first 21 homes within Old Battles Village, Phase 2.
3. The landscaping plan shall meet the approval of the Public Works Director.
4. The Operations and Maintenance Plans shall be amended to add the final
destination (ie. tributary, bay, etc.) that receives the storm water from the site.
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5. The "Building Coverage" stated in the site data table shall be changed to the
"maximum allowable lot coverage" to clear up any potential confusion between
the plat and the PUD.
6. The not "25% of the rear yard" in the site data table shall be reworded to "25% of
the required rear yard."
7. The utility and drainage easements are larger than the allowed accessory structure
setbacks . No accessory structures can be constructed on drainage or utility
easements carrying storm water, pipes, conduit, etc.
Bernie Fogarty 2 nd the motion.
Mr. Turner suggested the neighborhood residents go to the City Council with their
request to fix the damaged streets.
The motion carried with the following vote: A YE -Jennifer Fidler, Bernie Fogarty, Lee
Turner, Jay Robinson, Hollie MacKellar, George Roberds, and Kevin Boone. NAY -
Bob Clark.
SD 16.17 Public hearing to consider the request of Dewberry/Preble-Rish, LLC for
Preliminary Plat approval of Phase 2 of Silverleaf at Firethorne, Steve Pumphrey.
The property is located on the east side of US Hwy. 181 and on the south side of
Narrowleaf Boulevard. Mr. Smith gave the staff report saying the property is zoned PUD
in the City of Fairhope. The site is approximately 13.78 acres with 29 lots proposed.
Staff recommendation is to approve contingent upon the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall be advised that the traffic recommendation shall be addressed
prior to Phase 3 commencing.
2. The Drainage and Operations and Maintenance Plan shall reflect the final
disposition of water in the reports. The Operation and Maintenance Plan shall be
recorded.
3. The applicant shall provide a copy of the ADEM NOi.
4. The applicant shall provide a note on the plat that fences shall not be placed in
drainage easements.
Mr. Pumphrey was present to answer any questions.
Mr. Turner opened the public hearing. Having no one present to speak, he closed the
public hearing. Mrs. MacKellar asked how many phases there will be for this
development and how the roads will be in 10 years. Mr. Pumphrey responded there are 6
phases and the roads were constructed to the City's standards and are currently in great
shape. Mr. Turner asked if the proper bonds are in place and Mr. Pumphrey answered
yes. Mr. Boone suggested upgrading the City's street standards but noted this is the first
time he remembers there ever being an issue. Mr. Turner agreed and said maybe that
particular subdivision should be evaluated because it is the only one he recalls in the past
16 years.
Jennifer Fidler made a motion to accept the staff recommendation to approve contingent
upon the following conditions:
1. The applicant shall be advised that the traffic recommendation shall be addressed
prior to Phase 3 commencing.
2. The Drainage and Operations and Maintenance Plan shall reflect the final
disposition of water in the reports . The Operation and Maintenance Plan shall be
recorded.
3. The applicant shall provide a copy of the ADEM NOi.
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4. The applicant shall provide a note on the plat that fences shall not be placed in
drainage easements.
George Roberds 2 nd the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
UR 16.10 Request of AT&T for an 11.52.11 Utility Review and approval of the
proposed installation of approximately 1,631 linear foot of fiber optic cable and
2,477 linear foot of innerduct pipe in the City of Fairhope Right-of-Way, Wade
Mitchell. The projects will run along Gayfer Road Extension, Ayrshire Lane, and
throughout Huntington Woods and Old Battles Village subdivisions. Mr. Smith gave the
staff report saying AT&T is upgrading their infrastructure to a new state of the art fiber-
to-the-home network. The total installation will consists of 11,250 linear feet of
innerduct and 1,631 linear feet of cable with a portion of the work in the City ROW and
the remaining work within the utility easements. The method of installation will include
trenching, vibratory plows, and directional boring. Staff recommendation is to approve
conditional upon the following:
1. The applicant shall follow the general comments related to utility work, as stated
in the Staff Report.
2. All mechanical and locator equipment shall be painted munsell green.
Mr. Turner opened the floor to public comments . No one was present to speak.
Mrs. Fidler stated there have been so many of these projects coming in and the City has
had several issues where the roads have been damaged. She explained the departments
have been working together for new guidelines regarding these projects. Mr. Smith
stated the Building Department will not issue any permits if there are any unresolved
issues with other sites.
Jennifer Fidler made a motion to accept the staff recommendation to approve conditional
upon the following:
1. The applicant shall follow the general comments related to utility work, as stated
in the Staff Report.
2. All mechanical and locator equipment shall be painted munsell green.
George Roberds 2 nd the motion.
Mr. Boone asked if the issues were caused due to depth or type of installation. Mrs.
Fidler said she is not sure of the cause but we are now asking the contractors to go deeper
and making sure bores are all done by directional bore and no push bores. Mr. Roberds
suggested the City adopt the same requirements as ALDOT.
The motion carried unanimously.
IR 16.01 Request of Hutchinson, Moore & Rauch, LLC for an Informal Review of
the Luce Family Division, a 4-lot subdivision, Robert Cummings. The property is
located on the west side of Scenic Highway 98 and n01ih of Confederate Rest Road. Mr.
Smith gave the staff report saying the property is a County Zoned District 26 RSF-2
parcel, located at 17423 Scenic 98. The property is approximately 3.2 acres and the
applicant is proposing 4 lots . A family division was approved by Baldwin County in
2008 but it was never recorded. The City has no land use authority and has only been
involved with these requests since 2009. It would be better for the County to give us a
recommendation regarding their position. The applicant is also requesting a waiver to the
street frontage requirement as per the Subdivision Regulations. Staff recommendation is
to provide insight and comments regarding the proposed subdivision.
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Mr. Cummings addressed the Commission saying the County has looked at the proposal
and are agreeable to the layout; however, the waiver would be required for the layout to
work. Mr. Turner stated he does not like the design of Parcel B. Mr. Roberds stated it
appears 3 lots do not meet the County's 3:1 ratio requirements.
Robin Luce addressed the Commission saying the house was built in 1890 and the porch
could be removed but they are trying to preserve the house. He said he has spoken with
the neighbors and they have some concerns but this has already been approved once and
just wasn 't recorded. Mrs. MacKellar asked ifthere have been any drainage problems
and Mr. Luce responded yes, on the north property line when a drainage pipe was
clogged. Mr. Luce stated there will be 3 structures removed but they intend to keep the
main house. Mr. Turner said he would like to see it remain I lot but he understands
reality and he is glad they are going to preserve the house.
Mr. Turner opened the floor for public comments.
Mary Lou Meaher of 17445 Scenic 98 -She stated she lives next door and wants to know
what will be built on the site. She asked for the dates of the next meeting so she can
attend.
John Carden, President of Point Clear POA -He said the applicants are trying to squeeze
a fourth lot out on the bay and it doesn't fit.
Having no one else present to speak, Mr. Turner closed the floor.
Mr. Cummings stated the County does not have any issue with the waiver request or the
layout. Mr. Turner said Parcel B does look like it is jammed in there. Mr. Roberds said
the 3: I ratio is not a City requirement but he did want to make sure the applicant was
aware it was not being met.
Old/New Business
March 7, 2016 -Amend meeting minutes, Jonathan Smith. Mr. Smith stated there
was an error in the minutes for case ZC 16.03. The minutes have been changed to show
the 2nd by Jay Robinson arid an abstention by Kevin Boone.
Bernie Fogarty made a motion to amend the minutes of the March 7, 2016 Planning
Commission meeting. Bob Clark 2nd the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Having no further business, George Roberds made a motion to adjourn. Bernie Fogarty
2nd the motion and the motion carried unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 6:25
PM.
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Lee Turner, Chairman
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