HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-05-2007 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday,
November 5, 2007 at 5:00 PM at the City Municipal Complex, 161 N.
Section Street in the Council Chamber.
Present: Jean Wilson, Chairman; Bob Clark, Mayor Tim Kant, Dick Charles,
Lee Turner, Councilman Mike Ford. Gregg Mims, Jonathan Smith, Nancy
Milford, Emily Irby of Planning Staff and Chris Gill, Attorney.
Absent: Ed Brinson, Dan McCrory, Gary Moore and Betty Rivenbark
The minutes of the October 1, 2007 meeting were approved on motion by
Dick Charles, 2 nd by Lee Turner and unanimously carried.
ZC 07-05 Rezone request from R-6 Manufactured Home District to
Planned Unit Development (PUD) property of Ivey Lane Development,
LLC. Chairman Wilson said Attorney Gill has a conflict with this case.
Jonathan Smith gave the staff report saying the property is located on the
northeast corner of Morphy Avenue and Bishop Road. Total site area is
3.03 acres. There are a total of thirteen building footprints and twenty-six
units are indicated. Modular building construction is proposed. Site density
is approximately 8.5 units per acre. No building on site will be over thirty
feet in height and approximately forty-five percent of the total site area is
dedicated as open space. Total impervious site coverage is approximately
fifty-five percent. The applicant has worked with staff to reduce the unit
count from thirty-two to twenty-six units; increase landscaped buffers on the
north and east property lines from six feet to twenty feet; provide a six foot
opaque fence on the north and east property lines; and include a "garden
park" and playground in the large open space areas. A pool and clubhouse
are also provided as amenities within the development with a pedestrian
circulation plan that includes numerous sidewalks throughout the site. The
site is bordered to the north, east and west by R-3 High Density Single
Family Residential District zoning. South of the site is unzoned land in the
County. Staff recommendation was to approve contingent upon the
following conditions:
1. Detailed drainage plans in compliance with City regulations will be
administratively reviewed and approved prior to the issuance of any
land disturbance or building permits.
2. The City Horticulturalist (Jennifer Fidler) shall sign off on the
landscape plan prior to the issuance of any land disturbance or
building permits.
3. The City Water and Sewer Superintendent (Dan McCrory) shall sign
off on the final Flow Model prior to the issuance of any land
disturbance or building permits.
Justin Clements was present representing the applicant and said he would
be glad to answer any questions. The project engineer, Richard Borden,
was also present. Chairman Wilson opened the public hearing and
announced that due to the large number of people signed up to speak that
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each person would be limited to 3 minutes. Peter Hunter of 4 Troyer Court
spoke in opposition of the development saying that this would change the
characteristics of the neighborhood, drive down property values and
increase the existing drainage problems. Dottie South of 1 Troyer Court and
Marion McKnight of 7 Sumac Circle spoke in opposition saying the traffic is
already a problem on Bishop Road and this development will negatively
impact the current situation. Debra Green of 415 Maple Street addressed
the Commission and requested the following letters be included in the
minutes.
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Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
415 Maple Street
Fairhope, AL 36532
November 5, 2007
Fairhope Planning and Zoning Commission
RE: Ivey Park Development ZC 07-05
Commission Members:
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In that our property borders this proposal on the north and east, we are personally
affected by any development. Therefore, we respectfully request the Fairhope Planning
and Zoning Commission accept this letter, along with the attachments hereto, as our
formal opposition to the referenced proposed development. We further respectfully
request this letter and the attachments be made part of the official minutes of the
November 5, 2007 Planning and Zoning Commission meeting.
All concerns of the area property owners and residents have been completely ignored.
Absolutely no consideration bad been given to any issue, either verbally expressed or
submitted in writing, during the planning· and approval process. As of September 17,
2007, the Planning Department indicated they would not recommend project approval.
Although we have been in close contact with the Planning Department, it was only by
accident we realized they would recommend approval. We have requested the date of
. approval; however, have not received any response. As of October 30, 2007 all
docwnents we have most recently been allowed to review indicate September 14, 2007 as
the Planning Department approval date.
We were made aware the P&Z Commission does not always receive written or verbal
public input; therefor~ our issues were forwarded via email to each Commission
member. We had also discovered developers do not receive information regarding
concerns from the "general public". Justin Clements stated until we informed him
10/25/07 of our issues, he was completely unaware of any concerns other than an
incorrect survey, which, among numerous other problems, has yet to be resolved.
In April 2007, Lance Clements appeared before the P&Z Commission for an initial
informal review. He did not own the property at the time, and according to Probate
records, land purchase was in May 2007. The initial review received an extremely
negative response from the majority of the members. According to the current plans, he is
proposing a 13 dwelling, 26 unit, 68 parking space modular housing development.
Regardless of the current zoning, this proposal is not conducive to the neighborhood. A
development of this nature will only succeed in becoming an apartment complex or more
likely, a guest worker housing facility.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Fairhope Planning and Zoning Com.mission
RE: Ivey Park Development ZC 07.05
November 5, 2007
Bobby and Debra Green
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Page Four
He has received approval from the City of Daphne, Phase I nearing completion. to allow
a larger, similar development in an extremely suppressed area. We urge each of you to
view this development prior to any approval.
Rejection of this development, as Mr. Lance Clements has strongly inferred, will result in
returning the site into another mobile home park. We believe this to be an empty threat,
as it would take him decades to recover bis purchase price. We also believe the City has
policies or adopted ordinances, which will not allow any vacated mobile home park to be
reestablished.
Further, there are three recent instances, two of which we have been personally involved,
related to incorrect and errors in zoning designations. As an example, we recently
purchased a "current" zoning map of a very small section of Fairhope, which includes our
personal residential property. There are many zoning discrepancies on this map. When
brought to the attention of Jonathan Smith, he advised there were many errors, Citywide,
and this was a problem the Planning Department was attempting to correct. Therefore,
prior to any approval, we request a paper trail to verify the current R-6 zoning.
By Jonathan Smith's own admission, he has used no tooJs other than his "best judgment"
regarding adjacent property values, traffic, drainage and environmental issues. It is not a
substitute for any tools including the available County or City resources to determine
adjacent property values, the Neel-Schaffer Traffic Study, The Natural Resource
Inventory, the City of Fairhope Comprehensive Plan. the City of Fairhope Zoning
Ordinance, particularly Article II, Section C/e.1-8, Article V Section A/5 a-t.
The area is the lowest density single-family residential areas within the City. The home
· to acreage ratio of surrounding properties is 1 to 7. Morphy Ave., Bishop Road and
Fairhope Ave. are heavily congested by current existing traffic. With a mere 50 foot right
of way, Morphy Avenue, itself. is extremely hazardous. particularly with regard to
service industry vehicles pulling trailers and school bus traffic. Buses and large trucks
must stop in the middle of Morphy and wave oncoming or Bishop Road traffic through in
order to navigate a turn.
This area is the beginning ofCowpen Creek Watershed, which empties into Weeks Bay.
The area, particularly at our Morphy Avenue Green Nursery entrance, and their proposed
project entrance, is often prone to flooding.
The area infrastructure absolutely cannot accommodate such a high-density project.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Fairhope Planning and Zoning Commission
RE: Ivey Park Development ZC 07 .05
November 5, 2007
Bobby and Debra Green
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The site plan consists of multiple technical errors. Jonathan Smith has stated errors are to
be corrected. What corrections will be made and will any changes or corrections be in
favor of the developer or property owner? How will this Commission know what will be
approved with incorrect technical data? Mr. Smith has further advised BES Engineering
has been consulted and they have indicated no problems with the Site Plan. We find this
extremely difficult to believe.
In addition. an eight-p1ex. which Barry Fulford informed us would be a duplex, is
currently under construction on Bishop Road, near Gayfer Ave. In September 2007, this
Commission approved the informal review of Trey Jinright of Jade Consulting, ILC, for
a 56-unit milti-family townhouse development (Silo Farms Townhouses). How many of
these so-called affordable housing projects have or are to be approved? How many are
needed? What is the basis for this need?
This development is not what is best for the community. Most developments of this
nature are built in low-income areas as means for "affordable housing". They also tend to
cause an immediate depreciation in surrounding property values. It is the City's
responsibility, through the Constitution of Alabama, Section 35, to protect the property
owner, and not ensure a speculative developer a profit. The majority of the property
owners affected by this development have owned property and Jived in this community
for decades. Our, money, blood, sweat, and years have gone into Fairhope.
The developer is requesting a PUD; however, not a change in zoning. Should Mr.
Clements requested a change in current zoning, which, again, we are seeking proof: to a
lower density, the surrounding neighbors, might be willing to work with him. A
development consisting of four or five brick and mortar small retirement type homes,
with personal yards, parking, and a neighborhood environment with less impact on
traffic, drainage, and adjacent property values, may be an acceptable alternative.
A mobile home park is governed by very strict regulations under the City Zoning
Ordinances, and can be moved in the future. A slum, which this development will most
likely become, will remain for generations to come.
Respectfully,
c/4kb~
Debra Green
928-9409
1l/4A-
Robert M. {Bobby) Green, Jr.
928-9409
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
4 I 5 Maple Street
Fairhope, AL 36532
November 5, 2007
Fairhope Planning and Zoning Commission
RE: Ivey Park Development ZC 07-05
Commission Members:
Page Six
In that my property borders this proposal on the north and east, and I am personally affected by
any development. I hereby submit this document related to my comments, as an attachment to our
letter to be made part of the minutes of this meeting.
I am confident you will not approve this development but defend Mr. Clement's right to develop
his property in a fashion consistent with the neighborhood.
I would urge the P&Z to please begin to look at some of these projects holistically. Time-and-
again developments are approved in a vacuum particularly with no regard for surrounding
properties and especially the "downstream environment".
For instance: The engineer for this project shows the runoff water running east till it recognizes a
property line, magically makes a 90 degree tum, runs uphl!I for 80', makes a 180 degree tum
where it enters a 6" pipe at the confluence of the drainage of 13 acres of irrigated famtland and
single family residences. Topo maps used by the engineer do not show a shared large drainage
ditch common to our two properties. The engineers hydrology documents state design standards
of a 25 year flood whereas the city requires a I 00 year standard. Further he shows a combination
retention pond/playground. Numerous large trees, required to be shown, are absent from the site
survey. There are over 70 trees on the property, yet not one is shown on the landscape plan as
required. Trees on the Bishop Avenue right-of way are not shown, as required, and the retention
pond in that area could not be built without destroying the root systems of those city-owned trees.
An aerial photo, overlaid over the site plan, is now required by the director of planning and
zoning. The photo on file with the planning department is the size of a post it note.
Our adjacent 9 acre fann property is zoned R-3 and we have no plans on developing it. R-3
would be an appropriate designation for the 3-acre site in question. Should this high-density
project go through, what would prevent us from asking for the same high density? I would
submit to you that loyalty to Fairhope is a two-way-street. What would prevent other long-term
Fairhopian families, owning large undeveloped tracts in this area, to ask the same? I urge you to
confirm the trust we place in you as stewards of the citizens of Fairhope, and ask you recommend
denial of approval for this project.
Respectfully,
~~L
Robert M. (Bobby) Green. Jr.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
415 Maple Street
Fairhope, AL 36532
October 16, 2007
Mr. Gregg Mims
Fairhope Planning Department
Fairhope Planning & Zoning Commission
RE: ZC07.05
Ivey Lane Development
Gregg:
Page Seven
In reference to the proposed Ivey Lane Development, located adjacent to property owned
by us on Morphy Avenue, we are forwarding several attachments. We realize no one
wants to read a lot of information; however, would appreciate our issues be read and
thoroughly considered. Please be advised there may be further specific requests and
issues for concern. In addition to Planning Department review, we also request
confirmation from the individual members of the Planning and Zoning Commission of
their review and comments. It has come to our attention sometimes they may not receive
all information provided, particularly from the residents. We would further appreciate
copies of these documents placed in member packets.
This development met with strong opposition from the Planning and Zoning Commission
in April. We were surprised there were·any recommendations, however generic. We do
not favor this particular development. Jonathan has indicated no changes, and has stated
to us the Planning Department is not in favor of the project. However, an individual has
informed us the Planning Department is recommending project approval and the
November P&Z meeting will simply be a "formality". If given the opportunity, this
individual will confirm this during November meeting. How can such a recommendation
be made without P&Z consideration or a public hearing? Please explain how the
Planning Department has such administrative authority.
This proposal borders our property on two sides and we have conflicts. We have asked
the item be held over until December. Jonathan has advised there are no provisions under
the current Planning and Zoning Ordinances for the "General Public". He further stated
it could be held over if the developer would agree. They have refused. We think this
quite unfair. We have been forced, on three occasions, to alter our business meeting and
travel schedules for Ivey Park. We would request you ask the President of the
Commission, Ms. Jean Wilson, of her opinion. Further, Jonathan advised the developer
requested the hearing held over from October to November in order to contact other
property owners. To date, we know of no parties contacted. We have initiated all
communications with this developer.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Mr. Gregg Mims
Fairhope Planning Department
Fairhope Planning & Zoning Commission
Page 2 of Letter dated October 16, 2007
Page Eight
We are making a diligent effort to be cooperative with developments for which we have
not requested, nor at this point, are favorable toward. Our only requests regarding
developments have been for protection from the sprawling encroachment and
preservation of the environment. As there are no provisions for the "general public",
with every issue, the City gives the impression it serves at the pleasure of a developer,
particularly a speculative developer, and not at the discretion of the innocent property
owner or citizens of this community.
At our request, we have scheduled an October 23, 2007 meeting with Justin Clements.
We would appreciate another opportunity to review these plans prior to that date. Please
advise ifwe may review the plans early afternoon of Oct. 23 rd.
We would as well, ask these documents be made part of the official minutes of the
November 5, 2007 Planning & Zoning Commission meeting, preferably the December
meeting, not as attachments.
Respectfully submitted,
Bobby Green
415 Maple St.
Fairhope, AL 36532
928-9409
583-8473
Debra Green
415 Maple St.
Fairhope, AL 36532
928-9409
583-0471
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
ATTACHMENT ONE
COPY OF EMAIL
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GREGG MIMS, JONA THAN SMITH, EMILY IRBY
9/19/07
INITIAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS
IVEY LANE DEVELOPMENT
zc 07.05
PART OF LEITER (EMAIL) TO GREGG MIMS 10/16/07
SUBMITTED BY BOBBY AND DEBRA GREEN
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Copy of Email to Gregg Mims, Jonathan Smith, Emily Irby
9/19/07 INITIAL ISSUES OF CONCERN
Page I of 2 Attachment 1
Letter to Gregg Mims of 10/16/07
Ivey Lane Development
zc 07.05
Page Ten
Although we are not entirely opposed to the proposed development, please accept letter,
via emai~ in rough draft per our conversation of9/18/07, as concerns relative to the Ivey
Land Development, LLC proposal. This development is adjacent to our property on
Morphy Avenue and we request consideration to our issues during the October 1st
meeting. A more formal document, including additional information, will be presented to
the Commission during the meeting; however, a list of specifics is as follow:
1. Lance Clements appeared before the P&Z Commission, April 2, 2007 for an informal
review of this project. According to public records, he did not even own the property at
that time. Members of the Commission were very vocal in opposition to the project,
particularly with respect to density and the need, perhaps, for the property to remain for
use as a mobile home park, as unfortunately, it was the only affordable means of housing
for some. It was further stated the P&Z felt about 1/2 of the units proposed would be
more appropriate.
2. Mr. Clements inferred if the Commission would not allow the project, he would
simply place as many mobile homes on it as possible.
3. Mr. Clements purchased the property in May 2007. The Single Tax Colony Lease
transfer 5/7 /07, Warranty bill of Sale signed on 5/8/07, recordation 5/10/07.
Respectfully, it should not be the purpose of the P&Z to guarantee a profit for a
developer speculating on a project that met such initial resistance.
4. The reduction of units has been from 33 to 26, a decrease more in line with 1/4, not
1/2 as recommended.
5. There exists faulty engineering as survey says., 0 iron pin found". This is false.
Developer's survey company installed the pins. Their southeast comer, according to our
long established Claude Arnold survey, is roughly 4' onto our property and roughly, 4'
past a long established property line fence.
6. From all outward appearances, the proposed development seems quite desirable;
however, the property layout, placement of the dumpster, "apartment style" parking,
modular construction, all point to rental housing units which, this project is approved as
presented, would most likely quickly become.
7. The dumpster needs to be relocated. Ifwe were to develop our property for single~
family residences, the dumpster location would have a negative impact on at least two lot
sales. We suggest it be moved to Bishop Road area, where it offends no one.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Copy of Email to Gregg Mims, Jonathan Smith, Emily Irby
9/19/07 INITIAL ISSUES OF CONCERN
Page 2 of 2 Attachment 1
Letter to Gregg Mims of 10/16//07
Ivey Lane Development
zc 07-05
Page Eleven
8. How can we put faith in the hydraulics engineer when he uses a 25-year storm event
to calculate run-off while Fairhope requires a 100-year event? The drainage pipe under
Morphy Avenue to the East of this project, and downstream, is inadequate. The street
often floods in heavy rains. How will this be addressed without a negative impact on the
downstream property owners?
9. This property is the very beginning of the Cowpen Creek Watershed into Weeks Bay.
An Environmental survey showing the downstream effects of any development should be
required.
10. The tree survey required does not show dozens oflarge trees along the East property
line. No aerial photo was required, which would have identified same.
11. The 6' foot fence should be double sided and 8' in height. Fence should be built
for security and to withstand windstonns as valuable nursery stock exists on our property
along the north property line.
12. Proposed development, as presented, would warrant parking lot and area security
cameras.
13. When the property stood as a mobile home park, residents were kind and friendly.
We had numerous episodes of vandalism; however, police finally able to stop
problems. We voiced this during the initial review. Vandalism did not stem from any
residents of Mobile Home Park
Much appreciation is given to distribute this information to the entire P&Z members.
Thank you for your kind assistance.
Debra Green
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
ATTACHMENT 2
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ADDITIONAL ISSUES FOR CONCERN
MADEPARTOF
LETTER {EMAll.i) TO GREG MIMS 10/16/07
SUBMITTED BY BOBBY AND DEBRA GREEN
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Page 1 of Attachment 2 ADDITIONAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS
ZC 07-05 Ivey Lane Development Submitted by Bobby and Debra Green
Letter Gregg Mims 10/16/07
Page Thirteen
Oppositions to change in zoning or approval of PUD
I. In that it has been our personal experience with the City of Fairhope not
following adopted ordinances, we are of the opinion every point outlined is
valid and should be thoroughly read and serious consideration given to each.
2. Section 35 of the Constitution of Alabama, 1901, clearly states, "That the sole
object and only legitimate end of government is to protect the citizen in the
enjoyment of life, liberty, and property, and when the government assumes
other functions it is usurpation and oppression."
3. Number 2 above does not imply the government should protect nor encourage
a speculative developer, but should protect and ensure the rights of current
residents and long-term property owners.
4. There currently exists a moratorium on modular construction. We request this
proposal held over until lifted.
5. The project is located directly in the middle of one of the lowest density
single-family residential areas within the city. The home to acreage ratio of
surrounding properties is 1 to 7.
6. Any approved development will result in subsequent and similar requests and
approval from adjacent property owners.
7. Prior to approval, we request the members of the P&Z Commission closely
examine the area from Gayf er A venue, south, to Morphy A venue along
Bishop Road, as there are a number of "affordable" housing project approvals
in this area.
8. We reiterate our opinion this development is for rentaVapartment use
9. The developer has a similar project, St. Charles Village, currently under
construction in Daphne. Phase I, inclusive of 10 units, will be completed in
October 2007. As of September 24, 2007, 8 of the 10 units have been pres-
sold, two (25%) of which have been sold to "private investors", as rental units.
10. The developer has made the assumption the median price for a home in
Fairhope is in excess of$400,000. With this in mind, the developer has also
made the assumption $170,000 will be paid for his units, which are wall to
wall with other units, have stairway access, no personal yard or storage space,
no garage and no individual unit parking space.
11. According to the National Association of Realtors latest statistics, current
market value for the development as proposed is less than 70%.
12. The developer has continued to make statements relative to density and
restrictions related to that of a Mobile Home Park development, and not the
considerations to a PUD. As recently as October 8, 2007, Justin Clements
indicated a reduction of units to 21 based on the number of Mobile Homes
allowed on site.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Page 2 of Attachment 2 ADDITIONAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS
Page Fourteen
ZC 07-05 Ivey Lane Development Submitted by Bobby and Debra Green
Letter to Gregg Mims 10/16/07
13. After much thought, it is our opinion a Mobile Home Park may actually be
best for this area including, but not limited to the following reasons: a. The
restrictions specifically require an 8' masonry fence; b. A Mobile Home Park
can be moved in the future, should a more suitable development be proposed
for the community; c. Simply living in a Mobile Home does not determine an
individual's character or integrity, or lack, thereof; d. lt was recommended in
April the area remain a Mobile Home Park and e. This developer continues to
imply he will put as many mobile homes on the property as possible if he does
not receive project approval.
Assuming the City of Fairhope approves a PUD:
14. We request full disclosure of names and addresses of all parties/investors in
Trustmark Development Corporation.
15. We request being immediately advised of any changes to the approved
project, which may be implemented prior to any administrative or P&Z
Commission approval.
16. Upon any project approval, we wou1d appreciate working in cooperation with
the City Planning Department.
17. Any approva~ other than the current mobile home park status, should be
similar to that of East Gate Subdivision, and not inexpensive modular home
"projects".
18. The developer's survey is incorrect. We request another survey of their
property. They have suggested we have another survey of our property. We
will agree, at their expense.
19. As our business is located adjacent to this proposed development, this places
Green Nurseries Wholesale Division inventory, structures and property in
jeopardy. We request the erection of an 8' masonry fence along the
boundaries of our property. We also request the fence include heavy
landscape material.
20. We request no access onto our property, via fence or any other means.
21. We request the fence prior to any unit construction.
22. Initial site preparation will be restricted to construction of the fence.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Page 3 of Attachment 2 ADDffiONAL ISSUES AND CONCERNS
ZC 07-05 Ivey Lane Development Submitted by Bobby and Debra Green
Letter to Gregg Mims 10/16/07
Page Fifteen
23. The City is taking responsibility of approving a development; therefore, the
developer and the City will assume the responsibility of protecting our
property and business. (Refer to paragraph I). The implementation of these
measures will include; but not limited to protection from excess drainage,
construction debris, trespassing. damage, vandalism or theft of structures,
machinery, plant materials, existing trees or anything else located on our
property, not listed in this paragraph.
24. Reduction of proposed units should be a minimum of½, preferably a
maximum of 7.
25. Each unit should require individual parking.
26. Due to stagnant real estate sales and the National Association of Realtor
statistics, in order to provide assurance the development is not apartments nor
will tum into a "project" area, we suggest the units be pre-sold, prior to
construction. This will encourage and ensure individuals, not private
investors, as the developer is proposing. make purchases. This would further
protect adjacent property owners from devaluation of their land or homes.
27. We request the State Fire Marshall notified of any approved proposed
modular development to ensure required mandates units of modular
construction, particularly with reference to rental property.
28. We would request the City hold this and all developers to the highest of
standards including the City officia11y adopting all current building
ordinances.I codes as regulated by the state and federal governing bodies,
specifically the 2007 International Building Code.
29. Please review and refer to Article II (the entire article) of the City of Fairhope
Zoning Ordinance. We request the City follow the adopted procedures of the
City of Fairhope Planning and Zoning Ordinance that no building permit be
issued prior to the developer meeting all criteria.
30. In accordance with Artic]e IL Section C, f.(1~2,3) City of Fairhope Planning
and Zoning Ordinance, modifications in substantial conformance with an
approved site plan may be approved by the Director of Planning and Building
if they meet the following conditions: I. The modification addresses actual
site conditions that were not anticipated in the reviewed site plan; 2. The
modification meets the intent of the site plan standards in an equivalent or
improved manner than the origina1 site plan; and 3. The modification results
in no greater impact on adjacent property than the approved site plan.
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Page 4 of Attachment 2 ADDITIONAL ISSUES OF CONCERN
ZC 07-05 Ivey Lane Development Bobby and Debra Green
Letter to Gregg Mims 10/16/07
Page Sixteen
31. We hold the City and Planning Department accountable for item No. 24, in
that it is not the responsibility of the City to ensure a builder or developer a
profit, after project approvai should it be determined any project material not
meet specific requirements, such as "pavers", and a replacement product be
necessary, the builder or developer should use a product of equal or higher
quality. This is specifically outlined in Article II, Section C. f. (I, 2, 3). The
builder or developer should not be able to find a "legitimate" excuse to save
money due to any legislative mandate, cost over runs nor any other reason.
32. We request clear definition of all construction and parking materials used as
approved by P&Z. We request thorough research of all project materials to
ensure they meet applicable guidelines prior to the approval of the P&Z
Commission.
33. We hold the City and Planning Department accountable for Article V, Section
7 of the City Fairhope Zoning Ordinance, changes or amendments to a
Planned Unit Development shall be processed in the same manner as the
original request. Slight changes in the detail of the Planned Unit
Development that do not change the intent, meaning, relationship of structures
to each other may be approved by the Director of Planning and Building.
34. We request the Planning and Zoning Commission work closely with the
Planning Department to ensure this department nor does any individual
arbitrarily assume responsibility latitude for any changes that are clearly the
decision of the Planning and Zoning Commission.
35. As indicated through the attached, this area is the head of the Cowpen Creek
Watershed. Our industry, located adjacent to this proposal, is heavily
monitored under State and Federal guidelines. Therefore, for the protection of
the environment and protection of our business, we would request permeable
surface over the entire surface parking area, preferably, permeable pavers.
36. We request the City ensure retention ponds are not fed by wells and we be
advised of any chemicals which may be placed in same, such as with Arbor
Gates Apartments, Greeno Road.
Respectfully submitted,
Bobby Green
415 Maple Street
Fairhope, AL 36532
251-928-9409
Debra Green
415 Maple Street
Fairhope, Alabama 36532
251-928-9409
Planning & Zoning Commission
November 5, 2007
Page Seventeen
Trisha LoPorto of 7 Troyer Court opposes this development because of
drainage and traffic issues and deprecating property values. Robert Green
of 415 Maple Street owns property to the north and east of the subject
parcel and spoke in opposition. He stated that the plans show the runoff
going east and uphill to his property. He also stated no aerial was submitted
which would have shown approximately 70 trees on the property. Charles
Cuff of 20378 Bishop Road spoke in opposition saying the neighborhood is
single-family residential not multi-family and such zoning would be
regression. Jane Whitehead of 8687 Morphy Avenue said she looked at the
similar development and did not like it. She stated she would move if it were
approved. John Reimer of 5 Troyer Court requests that the Commission
deny this application due to the traffic and drainage problems. He also
stated concerns with the safety of the residents of the proposed units, that
currently school buses block both lanes of Morphy Avenue and emergency
vehicles cannot get though if needed. Mr. Reimer presented the
Commission with pictures of a similar development that is currently under
construction. Scott Lee of 1 Longleaf spoke in favor of the development
saying it is providing living areas at a reasonable cost. Waynard White of
12323 County Road 1 stated that he could not find the LLC registered with
the state though an Internet search he conducted. Chairman Wilson closed
the public hearing. Justin Clements and Richard Borden came forward to
answer any questions. Mike Ford asked if the engineer ever visited the site
and if the runoff was portrayed as running uphill. Mr. Borden responded that
he had visited the site several times and that drainage was not going uphill.
He further stated that there are three areas of drainage to control and the
site has been designed to meet the City's requirements of a 100-year storm.
Dick Charles stated that he would like a second opinion. Jonathan Smith
said that a drainage study was not required for the project, but the drainage
was revised from a 25-year storm to a 100-year storm. Lee Turner asked
what the density would be for R-5 High Density Dwelling Residential District.
Jonathan Smith responded that R-5 would allow 10 units per acre whereas
the applicant was requesting 8.5 units per acre with the proposed PUD.
Justin Clements explained to the Commission that the original site plan had
proposed 32 units, which now has been reduced to 26 units. He further
explained that the fa9ade of the buildings would be Hardy Plank and they
will keep all trees possible. He also stated that the buildings are built to all
standards set by the State and can withstand up to 140 mile per hour winds.
Mike Ford made a motion to deny and forward an unfavorable
recommendation to the City Council. Mayor Kant seconded the motion and
recommended that the Commission vote by show of hands. Motion passed
with one abstention by Dick Charles.
ZC 07.06 Request for R-3 High Density Single Family Residential
District Zoning of Eastern Shore Affordable Housing for St. Joseph's
Way concurrent with annexation for property located at the north end of New
Era Lane. Nancy Milford gave the staff report saying the applicant is
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requesting to annex 1.97 acres, which currently consist of 4 building sites.
The R-3 zoning requires a minimum lot size of 7,800 s.f. which would allow
for the property to be subdivided into 7 lots. Nancy Milford noted that the
applicant is a non-profit organization focusing on affordable housing. Staff
recommendation was to approve. Chris Baker was present to represent the
applicant. Chairman Wilson opened the public hearing. There was no one
signed up to speak. The public hearing was closed. Lee Turner moved to
accept staff recommendation and recommend approval to the City Council.
Dick Charles seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
SD 07.39 Minor Plat approval of St. Joseph's Way/Chris Baker of
Hutchinson, Moore & Rauch, LLC. Property generally located at the north
end of New Era Lane. Nancy Milford gave the staff interpretation saying the
applicant is proposing a 7-lot subdivision on 1.97 acres. The property is
currently unzoned with R-3 zoning proposed. The applicant is also
requesting a waiver from the minimum street standards in the Subdivision
Regulations. The applicant is a documented 501 (C)(3) non-profit
organization providing housing to the working poor in the Fairhope
Community and does not have the financial resources to the meet the full
requirements of the regulations. Staff recommendation was to approve
conditional upon receiving final approval of all water and sewer issues by
the Water & Sewer Superintendent. Chris Baker was present for the
applicant. Dick Charles moved to approve as per staff recommendation with
the condition that all water and sewer issues have final approval by the
Water & Sewer Superintendent. Lee Turner seconded the motion. Motion
carried unanimously.
SR 07 .09 Site Plan Approval for Jade Professional Office Building/Trey
Jinright of Jade Consulting, LLC. (Generally located on the east side of
Greeno Road, just south of Gayfer Avenue) Jonathan Smith gave the staff
report saying the property is zoned PUD and is part of the Greeno
Professional Village approved in 2002. The total site area is 36,905 s.f.
(0.847 acres) with a building footprint of 5,000 s.f. and total gross floor area
is 9,999 s.f. Proposed building height is 34 feet 4 inches. The project is in
compliance with the originally approved PUD Ordinance for the Greeno
Professional Village. Staff recommendation is to approve as requested.
Trey Jinright was present to answer any questions. Mayor Kant wanted to
know if the large live oak on the property would be saved. Mr. Jinright
responded that they would be protecting the tree. Dick Charles moved to
accept the staff recommendation. Lee Turner seconded the motion. Motion
carried unanimously.
SD 07.37 Multiple Occupancy Project -Approval of Crown Pointe
Cottages/Trey Jinright of Jade Consulting, LLC. (Generally located on
the south side of County Road 24, just west of U.S. Highway 98) Jonathan
Smith gave the staff interpretation. The applicant is proposing 12 one-story
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cottages on 5 acres of unzoned County land, with a density of 2.4 units per
acre. Each cottage will be 1,300 s.f. (habitable). Staff Recommendation is
to approve contingent upon the submission of a Drainage Maintenance
Plan, in compliance with the City regulations, prior to the issuance of any
land disturbance or building permits. Trey Jinright was present and
explained that this is a rental type project and would have one owner. John
Worley of 7760 County Road 24 had drainage concerns and wanted to
verify that the runoff would not end up on his property. He also wanted to
know who would maintain the road. Mr. Jinright responded that they would
be containing their water on site, which should lessen the natural flow onto
Mr. Worley's property. The maintenance of the road would be that of the
property owner. Lee Turner move to accept the staff recommendation with
the condition that a Drainage Maintenance Plan, in compliance with the City
regulations, prior to the issuance of any land disturbance or building permits.
Dick Charles seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
SD 07 .40 Request to vacate a reserved Right-of-way on Lot 1, Mallory
Estates/Mike McQuillen of Sun World, Inc. (Generally located on the
south side of Twin Beech Road, just west of Thompson Hall Road.) Nancy
Milford gave the staff interpretation saying Mallory Estates Subdivision is
40.14 acres, consisting of four large lots. Lot 1 is 8.51 acres. As a rural
subdivision, 60-foot right-of-ways were reserved on the plat for future
streets. The revised subdivision regulations require a 50-foot right-of-way.
Staff recommendation is to approve the reduction of the right-of-way to 50
feet. Mike McQuillen was present and explained that currently the existing
house is encroaching the right-of-way. He stated the reason for this request
is to allow for a deck to be added to the existing house. Dick Charles stated
that this only pertains to the east 30-feet of the ROW. Gregg Mims said the
standard ROW now is 50-feet and staff would recommend only reducing 5-
feet of the 30-foot on Mr. McQuillen's property. Mayor Kant asked if 5-foot
reduction would allow the proposed addition. Mr. McQuillen said no that it
might not even eliminate the existing encroachment. Mike Ford asked if the
entire ROW could be vacated. Gregg Mims explained it could not without
Mr. Mallory's, the adjacent property owner to the east, agreement. Mr.
Mallory was present and did not concede to removing the entire ROW, but
said he would be willing to work with Mr. McQuillen on a compromise. Dick
Charles moved to accept staff recommendation to reduce the right-of-way
by 5-feet. Motion fails for lack of a second. Bob Clark moved to deny.
Motion fails for lack of a second. Dick Charles moved to table for 30 days
to allow the two adjacent property owners the opportunity to seek a solution.
Bob Clark seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
Lee Turner left at 6:30.
SD 07.36 Minor Plat approval of Jennifer Moore Merritt
Subdivision/Daryl Russell of McCrory & Williams, Inc. Property
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generally located on the east side of Ferry Road, just south of County Road
32. Nancy Milford gave the staff interpretation saying the property is located
in Baldwin County and is unzoned. A three-lot subdivision is proposed on
1.96 acres. All lots are roughly 0.65 acres. Staff recommendation is to
approve as requested conditional upon the submittal of a revised plat
reflecting the flood zone boundaries. Daryl Russell was present to answer
any questions. Mary Catherine of 16981 Ferry Road was concerned with
the ownership of Ferry Road and wanted clarification that the lots would be
single family residential, but not rental property. Nancy Milford explained
that Ferry Road, according to Baldwin County staff, is a common law
dedicated public right-of-way. It is a County Road, but it is not County
maintained. Daryl Russell verified that all lots are single family residential.
Dick Charles moved to approve with the condition that a revised plat
reflecting the flood zone boundaries be submitted. Mike Ford seconded the
motion. Motion carried unanimously.
SD 07.35 Final Plat approval of North Village At Stone Creek PUD/Steve
Pumphrey of Volkert & Associates, Inc. Property is located on the east
side of Highway 181, just east of Twin Beech Road. Nancy Milford gave the
staff interpretation saying the property is 63.13 acres and four lots are
proposed. The property was zoned PUD on May 11, 2006 and was
amended on November 13, 2006. The proposed plat is in conformance with
the approved PUD. Staff recommendation is to approve with the following
conditions:
1. The submittal of the Engineer's cost estimate for the Maintenance
Bond and the Maintenance Bond Agreement.
2. Completion of the punch list items.
3. Submittal of the revised Operations and Maintenance Plan.
4. Landscape plan shall reflect trees placed at least 25 feet from
intersections.
Steve Pumphrey of Volkert was present to answer any questions. Dick
Charles moved to accept staff recommendation to approve with conditions
that the Engineer's cost estimate for the Maintenance Bond and the
Maintenance Bond Agreement be submitted, punch list items be completed,
a revised Operations and Maintenance Plan be submitted, and the
Landscape Plan be revised to reflect trees placed at least 25 feet from
intersections. Bob Clark seconded the motion. Motion carried unanimously.
SD 07.38 Final Plat approval of Dogwood Subdivision/Chris Baker of
Hutchinson, Moore & Rauch, LLC. Property is located at the northeast
corner of Valley Street and Middle Street. Nancy Milford gave the staff
interpretation saying the property is zoned R-2 Medium Density Single
Family Residential District in the City of Fairhope. Property is 3.1 acres and
an eight-lot subdivision is proposed. Staff recommendation is to approve as
requested with the following conditions:
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1. Resolution of the FEMA map revisions to the satisfaction of the City
of Fairhope Building Official.
2. Submittal of the Maintenance Bond.
3. Street trees scheduled to be moved within eight months of Planning
Commission approval of the subdivision and with notification to the
City horticulturalist.
Chris Baker of HMR,LLC was present to answer questions. Mayor Kant
asked if the fence would be complete prior to the final. Mr. Baker responded
that it would be. Dick Charles moved to accept the staff recommendation to
approve with conditions that the FEMA map revisions be resolved to the
satisfaction of the City Building Official, a Maintenance Bond be submitted,
and the City Horticulturalist be notified of the moving of the street trees
within eight months from approval date. Bob Clark seconded the motion.
Motion passed unanimously.
IR07-12 Informal Review of proposed amendment to the Village North
PUD (The Triangle)/Chris Baker of Hutchinson, Moore & Rauch, LLC.
Property is generally located on the north and south sides of the intersection
of Section Street (Eastern Shore Parkway) and US Highway 98. Jonathan
Smith gave the staff interpretation saying the subject property consist of 108
acres and was zoned PUD in December 2002. Greeno Road borders the
property to the east, north is Fairhope R-1 Low Density Single Family
Residential District and Baldwin County 8-1 Commercial. West of the site
lies Baldwin County R-2a Single Family and Fairhope R-1, and south is
Fairhope R-1 and R-4 Low Density Multi-Family Residential District. The
applicant is seeking to amend the original PUD site plan in order to
accommodate a larger commercial building footprint and a change in the
commercial and residential layout. The commercial sections of the
development have been reconfigured and a 54,817 sq. ft. "big box" building
footprint is shown on the new site plan. The new site plan shows an
amphitheatre and other new recreational amenities. The applicant worked
with staff in providing additional buffer areas and reducing the total land
allotted for commercial square footage form 200,000 sq. ft. to 180,000 sq. ft.
The 2002 plan shows 514 total dwelling units and the new plan shows 949
dwelling units. Staff recommendation is to prove. Chris Baker of HMR, LLC
highlighted the differences between the approved 2002 PUD and the
proposed changes. Commercial square footage will remain the same at
180,000 sq. ft. A decrease of 20 residential units is proposed. The
approved commercial building for Parcel A has 30,000 sq. ft. and the
proposed building has an increase of 24,817 sq. ft. for a total of 54,817 sq.
ft. No proposed changes for the 13 acres for park land, 6 acres for semi-
public uses, 100 foot buffer for Fly Creek, 15 acres of open space or public
roads. Mr. Baker expressed that the applicant wants to be pedestrian
friendly and tie the two sites together while calming traffic. The applicant
would also restrict the commercial building on Parcel A to a grocery store.
Lisa Loney, Joe Pazdan, and Chuck Wallace of Pazdan-Smith Group were
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present. Ms. Lahey explained the fa9ade designs would be pulled from
existing architecture in Fairhope. The use of natural plantings would pull
people in. Chris Baker said Village North fits in the Comprehensive Plan as
a Traditional Neighborhood Center. Dick Charles asked for clarification on
the 48 live/work units. Mr. Baker responded they would be low traffic home
occupations, such as a lawyer's office, no retail. Jean Wilson asked what
type of business would Buildings A 1, A2, and A3 along US 98 be. Mr. Baker
said small neighborhood business, such as cleaners, casual dining, CVS or
Walgreen's and possibly multiple tenants. Bob Clark said they are asking
for a building larger than what is allowed in the "big box" ordinance and it
does sound like smart planning because there will be two practically across
the street from each other. Mr. Clark said it will pull business from
Downtown and the Commission is to protect Downtown, it took 20 years to
get to where we are now. Jean Wilson said the issues will be with the
grocery store and commercial building along US 98 that was previously
multi-family. Mike Ford said is a fairness issue, its not fair to deny one
person just because they are across the street. Mayor Kant said it took two
years to get the current PUD plan approved and he is proud of the City.
Chris Baker said that only one person was in opposition of the plan in 2002.
Dick Charles asked if they would be using permeable paving for the grocery
store site. Mr. Baker said they have a reduction in impervious area, but
would look into using a pervious surface. Chris Baker thanked the
Commission for their imput.
The Planning Commission was duly adjourned at 7:20.
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