HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-03-2005 Planning Commission MinutesThe Planning & Zoning Commission of the City of Fairhope met Monday,
October 3, 2005, at 5:00 PM at the City Administration Building 161 N.
Section Street in the Council Chambers
Present: Richard N. Charles, Chairman; Dan McCrory, Bob Clark,
Gary Moore, Jean Wilson, Ed Brinson, Lee Turner, Dan Stankoski,
Tim Kant. Barry Fulford, Building, Inspector, Kelly Chastain, Permit
Technician, Betty Rivenbark, Secretary Absent: none
Chairman Charles opened the meeting and said anyone who was present
expecting any discussion on the Farmers Market property at Hwy 181 and
Fairhope Avenue nothing had been presented and it would not be discussed
tonight. He said he heard that someone wanted to present a package
regarding this. Dean Mosher presented the package saying he represented
a group "A Fairhope of Success" and had a petition with 1227 signatures
against Wal-Mart locating in Fairhope. He said that a mega store such as
Wal Mart would have a deadly effect on the retail community and it would
start a chain reaction and destroy the community. He told of several issues
that the group was interested in stronger storm water retention and run off
standards based on square footage. Stronger maximum parking area
protection taking into account pervious parking surfaces based on square
footage. Stronger setback and buffer zones based on square footage.
Stronger infrastructure impact standards based on square footage. Dick
Charles responded he is also serving on a Bluewater Committee that was
formed by the Mayor and they had the same concerns. No further
discussion was held.
The minutes of the September meeting were considered and approved as
written on motion by Lee Turner, 2nd by Ed Brinson and carried with 3
abstentions by Gary Moore, Jean Wilson and Dan McCrory.
ZC0S.15 Public hearing rezone request of Fairfield, LLC from R-3 High
Density Single Family to PUD Planned Unit Development( Generally
located at the northeast corner of Twin Beech Road and Boothe Road)
Barry Fulford read the recommendation from the building department and
said that Scott Hutchinson is representing Fairfield Financial, LLC in this
request. A second opinion was asked for from Thompson Engineering and
it was not in the package of information presented. Scott Hutchinson of HMR
was present and said he had a copy of the Thompson Engineering report
and offered to retrieve it from his office. Mr. Charles said we would give him
time to go get it. Eric Cortinas of Fairfield, LLC asked if we could not hear it
since all the adjoining residents had been contacted and make a decision
tonight pending letter from Thompson. Mr. Charles said everything else was
all right the drainage and letter from Thompson is the only issue.
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ZC0S.19 Public hearing rezone request of Dorothy W. Givens from RA
Residential to R1-Single Family Residential for her property located at
19853 State Highway 181. Barry Fulford said this is approximately 6.68
acres and Ms. Givens is giving her son a piece of property that will fit the R 1
requirement. Staff recommendation was to approve. Mr. Charles opened
and closed the public hearing with no comment. Lee Turner moved to
recommend approval to the city council as per staff recommendation. Ed
Brinson 2 nd the motion and it carried unanimously.
ZC0S.20 Public hearing to rezone property from R-1 Single Family
Residential to R-5 Multi-Family Residential request of Gateway
Construction Corporation (Generally located at 8174 Gayfer Road)
Barry Fulford gave the staff report and said they are proposing to build a 62
unit condominium development and connectivity is available to Rosa Acres.
The public hearing was opened and Margaret McKenna , Beverly Snider
David Jones and Ronnie Marshall spoke and did not want connectivity,
wanted a fence erected along the property line and questioned drainage
plans. They said if possible they would rather have R4 zoning. It was
explained that since it was advertised as R5 they would have to go ahead
with this or withdraw and resubmit. Tommy Ward of Gateway spoke saying
he had a meeting with the neighbors and drainage is a high concern of
theirs also. He said if they can fit 62 condo units in R-4 he has no problem
with going for it. It was determined it could not be done without a
resubmittal, the public hearing was closed. Ed Brinson moved to
recommend R-5 zoning request to the city council. Lee Turner 2nd the
motion and the vote was for zoning change: Ed Brinson, Lee Turner, Dan
McCrory, Dick Charles. against zoning change: Tim Kant, Bob Clark, Jean
Wilson, Dan Stankoski, Gary Moore. Motion did not carry, denial will be
recommended to the City Council.
ZC0S.21 Public hearing to amend the previously approved Huntington
PUD request of Hutchinson, Moore & Rauch, LLC(Generally located at the
northwest corner of Old Battles Road and US Highway 98) Barry said
Riverbrooke Capital Partners has purchased the land and they are
decreasing the number of lots from 540 to 290 and Phase 1 was purchased
by Adams Homes which includes 97 of the original lots. He said this
contains some 138.08 acres. Staff recommendation was to approve
amendment as presented. Scott Hutchinson spoke saying the decrease will
make it a lot more attractive and more greenspace. Dick Charles said the
road design is much improved. The public hearing was opened and Eddie
Hall spoke citing water runoff, Mark Davis said he had the same comments,
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Bobby Davis said the elevations are wrong and Bubba Cametti cited
problems on the south side. He also said they took down a fence on his
property line and ran the sewer line along there on his property. Bob Bendik
also spoke on water problems. Scott Hutchinson said he just heard of some
of these problems tonight. Bob Clark questioned possibly delaying until
some of these questions answered, Jean Wilson said the PUD is much
improved and they will have to come back before us at least two more times.
The public hearing was closed. A motion was made by Lee Turner to
approve as per staff recommendation, seconded by Jean Wilson. The Mayor
said he would like to add the FFE requirement to be placed on the final plat
of the PUD and not flood their neighbors, and asked if they would amend
their motion and second to include this. They agreed to do so. Scott said he
will fix their problems. Motion carried with one abstention by Gary Moore.
Ed Brinson left at 6:00 PM
ZC0S.22 Public hearing rezone request from R1 Low Density Single
Family to R4 Low Density Multi-family Residential request of Fairhope
Trailer Court(Generally located on the east side of Greeno Road just north
of Volanta Avenue) Barry said this property contains approximately 3.57
acres and that the Auburn property is to the east and is unzoned and the
City Park is across the road. Approval was recommended. The public
hearing was opened and Joe Verhoestra said he had no objection to what
proposed. The public hearing was closed. Lee Turner moved to
recommend approval to the city council. Dan McCrory 2 nd the motion and it
carried unanimously.
ZC0S.23 was withdrawn
ZC0S.15 Fairfield, LLC(continued from above) A letter was presented from
Thompson Engineering that was dated September 28, 2005. Staff
recommendation was to approve provided Thompson Engineering agreed
with calculations already supplied by Hutchinson Moore and Rauch. Tim
Kant moved to recommend approval based on second letter from Thompson
and that FFE elevations will be included and taken care of by the engineer.
Dan McCrory 2 nd the motion and it carried with one abstention by Gary
Moore.
SD0S.54 Minor Subdivision approval Habitat for Humanity (Generally
located on Spring Run Drive just west of Northchase Court) Barry said
the property is currently zoned 84 and is contingent on the property being
rezoned to R-3. They are proposing to create two lots. Staff
recommendation was to approve providing the drainage plan is updated to
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show how storm water will be moved to the drainage swale along the
western border of the lots. It was noted the sidewalks were installed as
directed. Mike Warrington of BES spoke and said he had submitted the
paperwork to Summer last week that the flow is natural to the west and went
on to explain how they will handle it. Tim Kant moved to approve subject to
the drainage being turned and no building permit being issued and FFE's
on plat. Gary Moore 2nd the motion and it carried unanimously.
5D05.61 Preliminary Plat approval of Cedar Grove Estates (Generally
located at the northeast corner of State Highway 181 and County Road 24)
Barry Fulford said the property is located outside the city and is not zoned
and contains approximately 20.63 acres and they are proposing to create 13
lots. Recommendation was to approve provided the ROW showing shared
access of the two commercial lots being placed on the plat. Charlie Bassett
was representing James Walther and said they had no problem with the
shared access. He said they plan to keep drainage going the way it
naturally flows. Tim Kant moved to approve, Dan McCrory 2 nd and motion
carried unanimously.
5D05.62 Minor subdivision, The Fields, Alex Fields owner(Generally
located on the west side of Cty Rd 33 just south of Red Barn Road)
Seth Moore was representing Mr. Fields. Barry said this is located outside
the city limits and is not zoned. Staff recommendation was to deny since
drainage plans and required documentation from the county had not been
submitted by cutoff date. It was also noted that a fire hydrant needed to be
put on the northern end of the property no more than 450' from an existing
one. Mr. Moore said there is natural drainage easement that runs along the
rear. Jean Wilson said we have discouraged drainage easements along the
rear of the property in the past because of maintenance and we need to be
consistent. Seth said the restrictive covenants would say each owner is
responsible for their own property. Lee said in the past we have put in
common areas and not filled it in. Seth said Mr. Fields would put in a
common area. Bob Clark said that there seems to be several things that
need to be worked out and moved to table for 30 days. Dan McCrory 2 nd the
motion. Seth Moore said they would waive the 30 day requirement as it is
actually going to run 34 days. Motion carried unanimously.
5D05.63 Minor subdivision, Bay Island, a request of Bahama Builders
(Generally located in the triangle bound by Scenic Hwy 98, County Road 1
and Sunset Road) Seth Moore was representing the owners. Barry said
the property is located outside the city and is zoned by the county R1A and
contains approximately 1.31 acres and they are proposing to create 4 lots.
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Double frontage lots are not allowed in our subdivision regulations however,
the location of this piece of property makes double fronted lots unavoidable.
There should be a note on the plat that states fences are not be constructed
in or on the line of the 1 O' buffer zone and common area. It was
recommended another fire hydrant be put in on the northern end of the
property no more than 450' from an existing one. Staff recommendation was
denial as the required documentation from Baldwin County has not been
provided and the drainage plans are not complete. Mr. Moore said the lots
would not access Scenic Hwy 98. Discussion followed and a motion was
made by Dan Stankoski to approve contin~ent upon receipt of the letter from
the county approving this. Jean Wilson 2n the motion and it carried
unanimously.
5D05.64 Minor subdivision of Gonzales Family Subdivision, (Generally
located on the west side of Scenic 98 just north of Section Street)
Barry said the property is inside the city and is zoned R 1 and contains 2.80
acres and they are proposing to create 2 lots. Staff recommendation was to
approve.Tim Kant moved to approve as requested, Bob Clark 2 nd the motion
and it carried unanimously.
5D05.65 Preliminary Plat Approval of Copper Key, ARK Builders
(Generally located on the south side of Lawrence Road just east of Quail
Creek Estates) Barry said this is located outside the city and is not zoned
and contains 13.04 acres and they are proposing to create 19 lots. Staff
recommendation was to approve. John Avent was representing the owners.
He said that there are some things they need to work out and requested
this be tabled for 30 days and they would waive the extra 4 days. Dan
McCrory moved to table as per the engineer's request. Lee Turner 2 nd the
motion and it carried unanimously.
5D05.66 Final Plat approval of Edington Place, Phase II (Generally
located on the south side of Morphy Avenue just east of County Rd 13)
Barry said EDS is representing BA-101, LLC in this and the property is
located inside of the city and contains some 21.36 acres and the final plat
consists of 48 lots. Staff recommendation was to approve as requested.
Discussion let to a motion by Tim Kant to approve as recommended, Bob
Clark 2 nd and motion carried unanimously.
IR0S.09 Request of the City to amend the subdivision regulations to
require Finished Floor Elevations on lots in new subdivisions. Barry
said this is an informal review and if this is what the Commission wants the
amendment will be voted on at the November meeting. Discussion followed
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and it was decided the language needed to be reworked and presented
again at the November meeting.
An election of officers was held and Jean Wilson said after polling the
members it was recommended that Dick Charles continue as Chairman and
Jean Wilson as Vice Chairman and so moved Dan McCrory 2 nd the motion
and it carried with two abstentions by Mr. Charles and Mrs. Wilson.
Meeting was duly adjourned at 7:00 PM.