HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-05-2009 Planning Commission MinutesOctober 5, 2009
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The Planning and Zoning Commission met Tuesday, October 5, 2009 at 5:00 PM at the
City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street in the Council Chambers.
Present: Jean Wilson, Chairperson; Dick Charles, Vice-Chair; Bob Clark, Gary Moore,
Tim Kant, Fran Slade, Lonnie Mixon. Jonathan Smith, Planning and Building Director;
Nancy Milford, Planner; Chris Gill, Attorney, Emily Boyett, Secretary.
Absent: Lee Turner, Jennifer Fidler
Chairperson Jean Wilson called the meeting to order at 5:00 p.m. The minutes of the
September 8, 2009 meeting were considered and Gary Moore had one correction. Dick
Charles made a motion to approve the minutes as corrected and was 2nd by Gary Moore.
The motion carried unanimously.
IR 09.03 Informal Review for Strayhorn Place, a two lot minor subdivision, Harriett
Strayhorn. The property is located on the west side of Ingleside Avenue just south of
Estella Street, at 101 North Ingleside Avenue. Jonathan Smith gave the staff report
saying the subject property is approximately 1.29 acres and is zoned R-1 Low Density
Single Family Residential. Two lots are proposed, the largest lot to be approximately .93
acres and the smallest lot to be approximately .37 acres. Mr. Smith stated in order to
subdivide the property the applicant must receive a waiver from the Planning
Commission to deviate from the minimum lot width requirements set forth in the
Fairhope Zoning Ordinance. The proposed lot width for Lot 1 is 58’ and the required
minimum lot width for R-1 lots is 100’. Staff recommends the Planning Commission
provide insight and comment regarding the proposed two lot Strayhorn Place
Subdivision. Harriett Strayhorn, the applicant, addressed the Commission saying they
bought the property under the assumption that it could be subdivided only to find after
many months of waiting and the loss of several thousand dollars that is not possible.
After much discussion Gary Moore, Jean Wilson, Dick Charles and Lonnie Mixon said
they would like to see letters from all the neighbors in favor of the division since the
proposed lot will face the back of several lots. Fran Slade said she would like to see the
applicant be able to find some solution. Mayor Kant had concerns with the infilling of
this lot due to the current drainage in the area. Bob Clark and Mayor Kant said they do
not like setting precedents and there are many places like this in Fairhope.
Old/New Business
Sand Chimneys Discussion – Jonathan Smith addressed the Commission saying Gregg
Mims, City Administrator, asked to have Sand Chimneys added to the agenda to see if
the Commission finds them an acceptable method of stormwater management, but would
like to incorporate language into the Subdivision Regulations to limit their use. Mr.
Smith stated that Staff is agreeable with using sand chimneys if an engineer signs off on
the project. Jean Wilson said she does not know enough about them at this time and
would like more information on their advantages and disadvantages. Mayor Kant stated
his issues were not with the drainage but with the filtration and the possible
contamination of the drinking water. Dick Charles noted that the Publix project proposed
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sand chimneys and which were turned down. Lonnie Mixon and Gary Moore want to see
in-field case studies from projects that are using sand chimneys.
Proposed Subdivision Regulation Amendments Discussion – Nancy Milford
addressed the Commission and gave a brief summary of the proposed changes to the
subdivision regulations. She noted that Staff has been working with the Baldwin County
Engineering Department since April of 2008 to improve cohesion between the City and
County Regulations. Ms. Milford added that a Worksession would be scheduled for the
Commission to review the proposed changes in depth.
Election of Officers – Chairperson Wilson stated it is time for the annual elections of the
Commissions Chairperson and Vice-Chair. Bob Clark moved to re-elect Jean Wilson as
the Chairperson. Gary Moore 2nd and the motion passed unanimously. Bob Clark moved
to re-elect Dick Charles as the Vice-Chair. Fran Slade 2nd and the motion passed with
one abstention by Dick Charles.
Executive Session – Chris Gill addressed the Commission and requested they enter and
Executive Session by reading the following letter:
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Dick Charles moved for the Commission to enter an Executive Session to reconvene no
later than 6:25 p.m. Lonnie Mixon 2nd and motion passed unanimously by the following
voice vote AYE – Mayor Kant, Bob Clark, Gary Moore, Jean Wilson, Dick Charles, Fran
Slade, and Lonnie Mixon. NAY – None. The Commission entered Executive Session at
5:55 p.m. The Commission returned at 6:23 p.m. and Dick Charles moved to end the
Executive Session. Gary Moore 2nd and the motion carried unanimously.
The meeting was duly adjourned at 6:24 p.m.
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Jean Wilson, Chairperson Emily Boyett, Secretary