HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-03-2009 Planning Commission MinutesAugust 3, 2009
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The Planning & Zoning Commission met Monday, August 3, 2009 at 5:00
PM at the City Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street in the Council
Chambers.
Present: Dick Charles, Vice-Chair; Tim Kant, Jennifer Fidler, Bob Clark,
Gary Moore, Lee Turner, Fran Slade, Dan Stankoski. Jonathan Smith,
Planning and Building Director, Nancy Milford, Planner, Chris Gill, Attorney.
Betty Rivenbark, Secretary. Absent: Jean Wilson
In the absence of Jean Wilson, Dick Charles (Vice-Chair) presided over the
meeting. The minutes of the July 6, 2009 meeting were considered and
approved as written on motion by Bob Clark, 2nd by Jennifer Fidler. Three
abstentions were noted, Timothy Kant, Fran Slade and Gary Moore.
Gary Moore asked and moved to change the agenda and let SD05-56 be
heard first. Tim Kant 2nd the motion and it carried unanimously.
SD05-56 Preliminary Plat approval for a one year extension The
Cottages at Point Clear, Phase II (Villas at Point Clear), Gregory P. Bru.
The property is located on the south side of Battles Road(if headed west)
just before Battles Road makes a sharp turn to the north. Nancy Milford
gave the staff report and said that The Villas at Point Clear was granted
preliminary approval by the Planning Commission in August 2005. The Sub
Regulations state that if a final plat is not submitted within two years of
preliminary plat approval, the plat approval will expire. The applicant
requested a two year extension on July 02, 2007. The Planning
Commission granted a one year extension. A second request for a two year
extension was made by the applicant on June 2, 2008. The Planning
Commission granted a one year extension until July 31, 2009. The applicant
is requesting that the approval be extended an additional period of one year
ending July 31, 2010. Staff recommendation was approved with the
following stipulations: at the time of final plat approval, the applicant shall
bring The Cottages at Point Clear, Phase II (Villas at Point Clear) in
compliance with all aspects of the revised March 8, 2007 City of Fairhope
Subdivision Regulations. The following minimum changes, including but not
limited to, must be met:
1)Drainage Requirements (a letter and/or a revised drainage plan stating
that the March 8, 2007 drainage requirements have been met). This
documentation shall include a watershed map.
2) BMP Treatment (a letter stating the requirements will be met)
3) Submission of an Operations and Maintenance Plan signed and stamped
by a Professional Engineer.
4) All required Maintenance and Financial Guaranty agreements and bonds
shall be submitted
5) A street lighting plan shall be submitted
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6) A letter signed and stamped by an approved professional traffic engineer,
stating that the latest versions of the traffic requirements of the subdivision
regulations are met
7) Tree Survey and Landscape Plan must be submitted. The applicant shall
meet all of the tree requirements per the Subdivision Regulations and
Zoning Ordinance. A tree protection plan shall be submitted for all required
street trees or trees over 20” DBH.
8) The applicant shall submit a pedestrian circulation plan.
9) All final plans shall be submitted on disc in an ADOBE PDF format.
10) Storm Sewers shall be videoed (reflecting a time and date stamp) and
reviewed and approved by staff.
11) The Engineer’s certificate on the plat would have to be revised with the
new wording provided in the Subdivision Regulations Article IV Section D
18. Approval was for a one year extension of the preliminary plat, ending
July 31, 2010 and upon the above listed conditions and the applicant
bringing The Cottages at Point Clear, Phase II (Villas at Point Clear) in
compliance with all aspects of the revised (March 8, 2007) City of Fairhope
Subdivision Regulations at the time of final plat approval. Lee Turner moved
to approve one year extension with staff’s recommendations. Gary Moore
2nd the motion and it carried unanimously.
ZC09-01 Rezone request of Thomas Toombs/Black Angus
Development, LLC from R-2 Medium Density Single Family Residential
to PUD. Gary Moore and Fran Slade had a conflict with the this case
and left the room. The property known as Dogwood Subdivision, is located
on the northeast corner of Valley Street and Middle Street. Jonathan gave
the staff report saying that this is an eight lot recorded subdivision and all
lots within the development are vacant and are platted per the R-2 zoning
district area and dimensional requirements and it contains 3.09 acres. The
minimum PUD requirement is three acres. He said the applicant appeared at
the March 2nd Planning Commission meeting requesting reduced front, side
and rear building setbacks, accessory dwelling units up to 750 square feet,
40% maximum lot coverage and an increased building height to 35’.
Unanimous denial was the vote recommendation to the city council. It
appeared before the City Council on May 26, 2009 where it was held over
until June 8, 2009 city council meeting. At the June 8 city council meeting
with a 4 to 1 vote the council sent the application back to the Planning
Commission to allow the applicant to make changes to the proposal. The
current PUD request consists of single family homes. The applicant is
requesting the following setbacks: front 25’, rear 30’; interior side 6’;
driveway side 15’ and street side 20’. Exterior Building Materials are
proposed to consist of brick, wood, hardplank, stucco, and vinyl for accent
only. Per this request, the subdivision will remain as platted with the
exception of allowing decreased setbacks. The increased building height
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request of the proposed PUD has been eliminated. Even though PUD
zoning is to allow for an innovative development, Bob Clark had expressed
his opposition to a PUD saying it is a developers dream and they can
change plans at will. Staff recommendation was to recommend denial to City
Council.
The public hearing was opened and no one had signed up to speak, it was
closed at 5:10 PM. Thomas Toombs spoke on behalf of Black Angus. He
made all the points he had made before saying it was in compliance with
R2, PUD, Village Concept and comprehensive plan, they were trying to be
innovative in design and fit in neighborhood just asking to simply reduce
setbacks. He said they had withdrawn the height change request, and they
had improved the property and deeded the lift station to the City, improved
fire hydrants, and installed lighting, that the first two planned homes are
high quality. He said smaller setbacks exist now in the neighborhood, they
are just trying to knit into the existing fabric of the older neighborhood. It
was pointed out that the smaller setback request was to save trees. Bob
Clark expressed again his dislike for the PUD zoning saying it is a big tool
for flexibility, but also said that he is going to vote no because of the concern
for drainage. He said on at least three occasions he has driven over there in
rainstorms and the water was almost over the barrier, less than a foot from
the top and there are no residences built on the property now. Jennifer said
she felt that six foot side setbacks are not large enough, she said that the
Board of Adjustments offered an avenue for his setback request. Mr.
Toombs said he understood that if he goes this route it would have to be
considered on a lot by lot basis, not the whole subdivision. Further
discussion led to Bob Clark moving to accept staff recommendation to deny
rezone request and convey this to City Council. Jennifer Fidler seconded the
motion. Motion carried with one no vote by Lee Turner who had expressed
appreciation for the innovative design.
ZC09.02 Rezone request from R-A Residential/Agriculture to PUD
property of Klumpp Family Limited Partnership. The property is located
on the west side of Highway 181, just south of the intersection of State Hwy
181 and Fairhope Avenue. Jonathan Smith gave the staff interpretation
saying this is currently undeveloped property and is one parcel containing
approximately 1252 feet of frontage along Highway 181 and contains 10.24
acres. If approved it will be subdivided into a five lot commercial
subdivision. The five lots will be accessed by a service road off of State Hwy
181. Proposed uses were listed as: Education or Training Facility, General
Office Space, Professional Office Space, Retail-Grocery retail –
Convenience (no gas), Retail – General Merchandise, Drug Store, Coffee
Shop, Post Office, Bank, Barber/Beauty Salon, Film/Photo, Tailor, Office
Support Services, Fitness Club, Dry Cleaning/Laundry, Restaurant (No
Drive Thru), Catering, Florist and Bakery. The hours of operation proposed
by the applicant are 5:30 AM to 11:00 PM. Maximum building coverage is
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proposed at 30% and total maximum lot coverage is presented at 80%. He
said further that staff feels the “restaurant(no drive thru)” proposed permitted
use is too intense to be located abutting single family residential
subdivisions and recommended this be eliminated from the “permitted uses”
table on the proposed PUD site plan, due to the offensive odors and noise
typically associated with this type of use. As proposed a 20’ drainage
easement and a 20’ heavily landscaped buffer (40’) will separate the
proposed PUD from the adjacent lots in Idlewild, and a 20’ heavily
landscaped buffer is proposed along the southern side of the lot in the
proposed development that abuts 4 lots in Jackson Place. An abundance of
large plant materials will be required in the proposed buffer areas. The plant
material and trees required were listed. An 8 ft privacy fence is also an
added requirement to the property lines of the subject property that abut
single family residential zoning and/or uses. If the PUD is approved, each
proposed site plan shall meet all Fairhope Regulations unless specifically
drawn on the PUD site plan. This includes regulations pertaining to site
landscaping, parking lot lighting, dumpster and mechanical equipment
screening, etc. In addition to staff requests, the applicant has agreed to
construct 50% of the parking surfaces of a pervious material. Upon
preliminary plat subdivision application (if zoning change approved) the
applicant shall be required to submit a drainage plan in compliance with all
City stormwater requirements and upon individual lot development, any
proposed site plan will also be required to be in compliance with stormwater
regulations. A conceptual drainage layout and a letter stamped and signed
by Joe Bullock of EDS, LLC has been submitted saying the drainage system
and infrastructure will be in compliance with the Fairhope Subdivision
Regulations. The applicant shall obtain approval from ALDOT for any curb
cuts or proposed improvements on State Highway 181 and the Planning
Department has requested that the applicant submit an official letter from
ALDOT approving access and any necessary traffic improvements on 181.
A pedestrian connection into the Idlewild S/D from the primary
ingress/egress point in the center of the proposed PUD site plan and a
pedestrian connection to the Idlewild stubout located on the north side of the
project is included. When Idlewild Preliminary Plat for Phase 7 was
approved a ROW stub-out was required on Orleans Drive which abuts the
subject property. He said the residents of the Idlewild residential
subdivision are adamantly opposed to a street connection to Orleans Drive
and a petition has been submitted and included in the packet to the
commission. Staff feels obligated to recommend connectivity from Orleans
Drive to the proposed development due to the comprehensive plan,
connectivity requirements in the city’s subdivision regulations and the
Planning Commission’s required street stubout for Phase VII of Idlewild. In
order to limit the possibility of any strip style development the applicant
agreed to a 10’ side setback for all lots within the proposed PUD and to
provide four-sided architecture for all buildings within the project. Staff
recommendation was to approve application contingent upon the following:
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1. An 8 ft privacy fence added to any property lines for the subject
property that abut residential zoning and/or uses.
2. All perimeter buffer landscaping/fences and required vehicular,
pedestrian and stormwater infrastructure shown on the PUD site plan
shall be installed prior to Final Subdivision Plat approval.
3. A fountain shall be incorporated into the proposed “water
feature”/retention pond for the project. This will assist in water
circulation and provide an additional aesthetical value to the project.
4. Restaurant (no-drive thru) shall be removed from the Permitted uses
table on the PUD site plan.
5. Due to language in the Comprehensive Plan encouraging
connectivity, connectivity requirements in the subdivision regulations
and the Planning Commissions approval conditions of Phase VII of
the residential Idlewild Subdivision, staff recommends the primary
ingress/egress for the project (the central ingress/egress) be
connected to Orleans Drive within Phase VII of the Idlewild
Subdivision. If the connection is approved, the intersection of Orleans
Drive and Royal Lane shall be a four-way stop intersection, the
applicant shall be responsible for installing all signage; a “No
Commercial Vehicles” sign shall be installed before the new street
connection meets the existing street stub into the Idlewild Subdivision
and a traffic calming device(speed hump, speed table) shall be
installed on the new street located at the common property line on the
west side of the subject PUD property
6. Unless specifically defined and/or outlined by the subject PUD Site
Plan, all improvements and aspects of the Idlewild 181 Place PUD
shall be in compliance with all applicable city regulations.
7. All pervious surfaces shall be constructed and maintained per the
latest industry standards; all pervious paving parking surfaces shall
be maintained at least once per year. The established POA shall
keep a record of parking lot maintenance.
Dick Charles pointed out to all that connectivity is important for emergency
vehicles, police, fire, and ambulances. The public hearing was opened and
the following spoke: Tom McCuller, 210 Orleans Drive, against connectivity;
pointing out potential speeding concerns as well as speeding now in
neighborhood. He said there are three entrances to Wal-Mart now; two sides
to the story, he is concerned about the children, a terrible idea. Keith
Jacobsen, here for the Board of the Idlewild Property Owner’s Association,
asked for a show of hands and said they have serious concerns, that there
is currently connected access to Wal-Mart, 150 houses don’t want it; staff
and developers don’t want the road, he wanted all to know these decisions
affect families, the good working people of the community. Joe Bullock
spoke for the applicant. A lengthy discussion followed with commission
members about the connectivity issue, with most saying use common
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sense, that this will definitely be a cut through. Lee Turner related his
experience driving through Idlewild with his son, he said he is also
concerned that this will be used as a shortcut, concerned for the children
and families. He went on to say he thought a pedestrian connectivity could
be a good thing and he could envision walking to a good restaurant. Tim
Kant mentioned that golf carts are now being used for transportation and
could be used in a pedestrian connection, he cited other subdivisions where
connectivity was required and said we need to be consistent, continue with
connectivity either a sidewalk or cart path. He expressed his concerns that
one of the proposed uses is a post office and said we fought hard to get the
post office uptown to keep the downtown viable and that he would hate to
see it move out there. Chris Gill addressed the members saying the issue of
connectivity might need to be addressed, but it is in the subdivision
regulations, a requirement, might suggest a traffic circle, traffic calming,
narrower streets maybe one way only. He suggested the commission think
about changing the connectivity rules to allow for conflicting residential to
commercial, that street stubouts cost a lot of money. Dan Stankoski, said
use common sense, residential to commercial, Wal-Mart is a high traffic
area, no one wants it. Fran Slade asked about a connectivity committee,
why not other ways of connectivity, read as a guideline. Jonathan Smith
mentioned that staff feels if the Planning Commission is leaning toward
approving the Restaurant use for the project, each restaurant within the
project should take measures to ensure compatibility with the Idlewild Single
Family Subdivision. Mayor Kant then recommended each site go through
the Site Plan Review process. Lee Turner, said he can see it as pedestrian
walk through, he sees connectivity as a safety issue, all buildings will have
site plan review, he moved to accept staff recommendation with pedestrian
connection and to remove items 4 and 5 from the recommendations listed
above, instead of approving condition number 4 as it is written, change the
condition number 4 to allow for restaurant use (with no drive thru) and also
delete condition number 5 as it is written in the staff report and change
condition number 5 to allow for pedestrian walk through connectivity only,
with emergency vehicle access provided through use of a transmitter
activated device on the emergency vehicle, which can open a motorized
gate if absolutely necessary. Fran Slade seconded the motion, Gary Moore
said he is a proponent of connectivity concern, but mentioned he is
concerned that an incongruent traffic pattern might be created if we allow
the ingress/egress locations as proposed for the project. Motion passed
with one no vote by Jennifer Fidler.
ZC09-03 Request of the City Planning Staff and Accessory Dwelling
Unit Committee for approval of an amendment to the Zoning Ordinance
to allow for detached Accessory Dwelling Units. Jonathan Smith gave
the staff report saying that staff has been working with the ADU Committee
since July of 2008 to draft an Accessory Dwelling Unit Ordinance that will
best suit the needs and character of the community. Over the course of
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several months, the committee and staff have formulated an ADU Ordinance
for consideration by the Planning Commission and City Council. A draft copy
of the ADU Ordinance was presented to the Planning Commission on April
6, 2009 and appeared to be comfortable with the provisions included in the
proposed ordinance. Staff recommendation was to approve. Gary Moore,
chaired the committee and spoke naming the committee members:
Jonathan Smith, Barry Fulford, Ealine Snyder-Conn, Wendy Allen, Mike
Hutchinson and Dick Charles. He said they sought and received public
input, this ADU committee was put in motion due to a lack of affordable
housing, returning children, housing for aging parents. He said they pulled
ordinances from around the country, took the best of those, got public input,
listened to the community regarding street parking, exterior lighting, size of
unit, porches, building codes, concerns of windows facing neighbors. He
said they required on site parking and any new parking would be pervious
material, also that the owner would live in the ADU or it be their primary
residence, short-term rentals, the same rules and regulations would apply, a
limit on bedrooms, would accommodate handicap and the ADU unit could
not be subdivided. Sue Simmons had written a letter and said four
individuals seems excessive unless it reads “four related residents” It was
pointed out it had been advertised 7 times in the Courier, including tonight,
posted at the Nix Center, City Hall and utilities building. Dan Stankoski
asked how would you enforce the owner living on the property, what if
someone dies, how 15 years down the road would you enforce it. The
answer was it would be recorded in real property records with Baldwin
County and action will be taken in municipal court if violations occur. Bob
Clark commented that in reading it, it is discriminatory for subdivisions with
covenants, but he feels that it will change the character of a great part of
Fairhope if passed. Lee Turner said until five years ago you could do it, and
Fran Slade said garage apartments were allowed. Jonathan Smith said now
garage apartments are considered as a non-conforming use, if a
nonconforming structure is proposed to be changed by more than 50% they
would have to come into compliance with current codes. Dick Charles said
on property ownership it would be “right of succession”, wrung out with legal
documents. Chris Gill said as with other laws a property owner would be
“deemed to have constructive knowledge”, but is not always the case. Gary
Moore said there was a tremendous amount of dialog before it got here.
Mayor Kant spoke saying his only concern is higher density, more cars, it is
saying every single family residence can build one, we will have them in
higher density areas. People who buy larger lots with single family homes,
every house can build one. Jonathan said some smaller lots could not. The
Mayor said we need to change the wording.
Gary Moore said if they exceed the allowable building limit on a lot they
could not. Mayor Kant said that the building unit must be in character with
the house and neighborhood, how are we going to enforce that. He said we
need to have a mechanism in place before this goes to City Council. Billie
Carlisle spoke saying Bob Clark made the point, more cars on the street,
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lose the character and feel of old Fairhope, have low density downtown,
think of a more creative way to do it. Bob Clark said this one fell through the
cracks, he had complete faith in the committee and never questioned it until
now. Fran Slade said she is not against the ordinance, but she thinks we
need more discussion before going to City Council. Further discussion led to
Lee Turner recommending the ordinance to the City Council, Gary Moore
seconded the motion. Vote was for motion: Lee Turner, Gary Moore,
Jennifer Fidler, Dick Charles. Against motion: Dan Stankoski, Fran Slade,
Bob Clark, Tim Kant.
Motion did not pass.
SD09-09 Final Plat approval of resubdivision of replat of Phase 1 of
Fairhope Village, a minor division request of Volkert & Associates. Lee
Turner and Dan Stankoski left the meeting prior to any discussion of
this matter and did not return. Property located on the southeast corner
of the intersection of US Highway 98 and Parker Road. Nancy Milford gave
the staff report saying the property is approximately 12.42 acres and the
property is located in the city with the zoning designation of PUD. She said
a pocket park was shown on the approved site plan drawings but does not
appear on the submitted plat. Also, the road configuration on the west and
east side of Lot 4 has changed from the original and reduces the amount of
green space. She said the applicant shall provide the green space for the
pocket park as shown in the original site plan or provide equivalent
greenspace in another location on the property. Nancy also said there
needs to be a note on the plat that the common area is not a lot. Staff
recommendation was approval conditional upon:
1. The installation of an aerator in the storm water pond
2. Flow models shall be provided for the undeveloped parcels
3. The applicant’s engineer shall provide the required information
regarding the water line and easement related to lot 4
4. The applicant shall provide the equivalent amount of green space
from the pocket park either in the original location of pocket park or in
another location on the site, in close proximity to the original location
shown on the site plan.
5. The applicant shall provide an existing tree survey and tree protection
plan for lots 2,3,4. All landscaping shall meet the City of Fairhope
horticulturist’s approval. All city requirements will be met prior to a
land disturbance permit being issued. The applicant shall submit as-
built plans showing the landscape irrigation system for the city of
Fairhope horticulturist approval (hard copies)
6. The submittal of the original engineering certificate with the
engineer’s seal.
Nancy Milford added three additional staff recommendations. These
recommendations are as follows:
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A north arrow shall be added to the plat
A scale shall be added to the plat
Easements of not less than 15’ shall be added along side and rear lot
lines as required for drainage and utilities shall be added to the plat.
Steven Pumphrey of Volkert & Associates spoke saying the pocket park
was in site plan review and requirements have been met through
landscaping requirements. The subdivision plat as submitted is in
compliance with the site plan. He also said a note will be on the plat
stating “all future development of these lots shall be in compliance with
the approved Fly Creek PUD and protect trees already there”.
Paul Ripp addressed the commission saying that all failed on the Publix,
no enforcement, no tree survey, no buffers and now planning a fire
station on Parker Road. The problem is nothing stated has been done
now. Mayor Kant responded to Mr. Ripp’s comments saying that the staff
has stated over and over that they did comply with all requirements, they
did what they were supposed to and he stands behind staff, they
followed all the rules. Mayor Kant moved to approve staff
recommendations with the change to Item 5 –before any land
disturbance permit is issued all City requirements shall be met and all
landscaping, tree protection and buffer requirements shall be approved
by the City Horticulturist (Jennifer Fidler) and a note shall be placed on
the plat that no building shall be allowed in the Common Area. Bob
Clark 2nd the motion and it carried with one no vote by Gary Moore.
UR 09-08 Request of John Saracino of the Fairhope Volunteer Fire
Department for 11-52-11 review and approval of a proposed fire
station. The property is located on the south side of the intersection of
Parker Road and High Ridge Road. Jonathan Smith gave the staff report
saying that the property is within the Fly Creek PUD and the PUD
masterplan shows townhouse lots. The fire station will result in a
decrease in residential density by approximately 11-14 townhouse units.
The building is 8,300 square feet with 3 fire truck bays. The exterior
architectural elements are composed mainly of brick and a steel frame.
It includes a kitchen, two bathrooms, a male sleeping quarters and
showers, a female sleeping quarters and showers, a day room, a training
room, four offices, one exercise room and facilities support space. The
station is designed to be manned 24 hours a day, 365 days a year.
Upon building permit review the proposed fire station will be reviewed for
compliance with all applicable city regulations. John Saraceno (Fire
Chief) said that in a 1996 ISO rating it was stated we shall have a fire
station on the north side of town, this will satisfy their edict. Staff
recommended approval. Bob Clark said he had gotten calls about the
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possible problem that might be created with noise of the vehicles. He
was told there were no plans to turn on the sirens until they hit Hwy 98.
They were asked will they respond every time and said they usually
stand by to see what station actually rolls. Gary Moore asked what type
of published notice went out, Jonathan replied there were no legal
requirements, they send e-mails to all neighborhood associations. He
also said that the subdivision application will come back to the Planning
Commission. Tim Kant moved to grant approval of the 11-52-11 review,
Jennifer Fidler 2nd the motion and it carried with one no vote by Gary
Moore.
Jonathan mentioned a letter sent to ALDOT (Vince Calametti) by Mayor
Kant supporting Smartcoast in their endeavors to work with ALDOT in
getting sidewalks and bike lanes installed upon the expansion of
Highway 181. A copy of the letter was in everyone’s packet. Dick
Charles mentioned an e-mail he plans to send the hospital overlay
district committee.
The meeting was duly adjourned at 8:05 PM.
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Dick Charles, Vice Chair Betty Rivenbark, Secretary