HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-04-2010 Planning Commission MinutesOctober 4, 2010
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The Planning Commission met Monday, October 4, 2010 at 5:00 PM at the City
Administration Building, 161 N. Section Street in the Council Chambers.
Present: Jean Wilson, Chairperson; Dick Charles, Vice-Chair; Bob Clark; Gary Moore;
Lee Turner; Jennifer Fidler; and Mike Ford. Jonathan Smith, Planning and Building
Director; Nancy Milford, Planner; Emily Boyett, Secretary
Absent: Fran Slade and Tim Kant
Chairperson Jean Wilson called the meeting to order at 5:00 PM and announced the
meeting is being recorded. The minutes of the September 7, 2010 meeting were
considered and Dick Charles moved to accept the minutes as written and was 2nd by
Jennifer Fidler. Motion carried with one abstention by Jean Wilson.
Mrs. Wilson stated Mr. Moore has a conflict with agenda item B. IR 10.04.
UR 10.14 Request of Southern Light for 11.52.11 Utility Review and Approval of the
proposed underground installation of approximately 700 linear feet of fiber optic
cable, Samantha McAllister. The project will run along the east side of Young Street,
just north of Twin Beech Road. Nancy Milford gave the staff report saying the method
of construction shall be horizontal directional bore and existing handholes will be
utilized. Two conduits will be installed; one for the fiber optic cable and one for locate
wire. Conduit depth shall be a minimum of 36” deep and located within the right-of-way.
Staff recommendation is to approve as requested, conditional upon the following two
conditions: 1) the applicant shall work with the Water and Sewer Superintendent to
ensure no existing water and/or sewer lines are impacted by the work; 2) all existing
utilities must be located and proper separation must be maintained between utilities. No
one was present to represent the applicant. Mr. Charles asked if the project would be on
the east or west side of Young Street and Mr. Smith confirmed it would be on the east
side. Lee Turner moved to accept the staff recommendation to approve the request with
the following two conditions: 1) the applicant shall work with the Water and Sewer
Superintendent to ensure no existing water and/or sewer lines are impacted by the work;
2) all existing utilities must be located and proper separation must be maintained between
utilities. Dick Charles 2nd the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
Mrs. Wilson stated due Mr. Moore’s conflict with the agenda item B. the Commission
will move it to the end and have the Election of Officers first so that Mr. Moore may
leave.
Election of Officers – Mrs. Wilson said the Commission’s Bylaws state the election
of the Chairperson, Vice-Chair and Secretary shall take place at the October
meeting every year. Bob Clark moved to re-elect Dick Charles as Vice-Chair. Jennifer
Fidler 2nd the motion and the motion carried unanimously. Dick Charles moved to re-
elect Jean Wilson as Chairperson. Jennifer Fidler 2nd the motion and the motion carried
unanimously. Jennifer Fidler moved to re-elect Emily Boyett as Secretary. Gary Moore
2nd the motion and the motion carried unanimously.
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Gary Moore has a conflict with Item B. IR 10.04 and left the room.
IR 10.04 Request of HMR, LLC for an Informal Review of a PUD Amendment for
Old Battles Village, Christopher Baker. The property is located on the north side of
Old Battles Village between Greeno Road and Section Street. Nancy Milford gave the
staff report saying the property is located inside the City of Fairhope and is zoned PUD.
The approved Master Plan consisted of two phases with approximately 137.44 acres and
291 lots. The property has been dormant since the Phase 1 final plat approval and no
homes have been constructed; however, the infrastructure has been installed but needs
significant repair. The applicant proposes to reduce the lot sizes and increase the number
of lots in Phase 1 from the original 120 lots to 173 lots. The original lots are typically 80
– 91 feet wide and are between 12,000 – 15,000 square feet in size. The new lots are
proposed to vary from 45’ to 73’ wide. The existing roadway and infrastructure is not
proposed to be changed. Staff’s willingness to support this amendment will depend on
the active/passive recreational amenities provided by the applicant in the additional open
space area. The large open space area should be configured in a way that can be easily
maintained by the future property owners’ association. Staff would also like to see a
portion of open space in a centralized area on the western side of Phase 1. Staff
recommendation is for the Commission to provide insight and comments regarding the
proposed PUD amendment. Matt Sankey came forward and addressed the Commission
saying they are exploring the possibility of providing townhomes which are a more
marketable housing in the current market. He said the development was bought out of
foreclosure by a company in Montgomery, Phoenix Real Estate. Mrs. Wilson asked if
both phases were purchased and Mr. Sankey said yes. Mrs. Fidler asked if there are any
developments in Fairhope that are similar to what he is proposing. He said it would be
40, 50, and 60 foot lots. He said it would be brick construction but he did not have a
style in mind yet. Mrs. Fidler said if the density increases then the stormwater will
increase and the ponds were designed for the original layout. Mr. Sankey stated the
engineer would make sure the ponds would be able to handle the stormwater but the
overall density for the development will not change. Mrs. Fidler stated the green space is
primarily in the second phase and asked who would maintain the existing green space.
Mr. Sankey said they would include some of the green space in the first phase if they
received approval and it would be maintained by the property owners’ association. Mr.
Smith stated in the PUD amendment the applicant can propose architectural designs or
guidelines for construction. Staff would like to see the open space not be a burden on the
property owners’ association but an asset for the development and do something creative
like planting wildflowers or a community garden to prevent it from becoming a burden.
Mrs. Fidler stated this area has been a maintenance issue for the City and the streets have
been damaged even though the development is vacant. Mr. Sankey responded they have
spent a lot of money cleaning it up and they are keeping it cut and would like to have the
City block off the streets. Mr. Charles asked if a marketing survey has been done and if
the type houses proposed are sellable and Mr. Sankey responded yes, the footprints they
are looking at are selling for approximately $200,000 and under. Mr. Ford commented
on the size of the lots and asked where the homeowners would store their cars or boats
since they can not access the back of the lots. He asked if they considered installing
alleys and Mr. Sankey stated he was not opposed to alleys and he would look at setting an
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acre aside to secure for storage. Mr. Turner agreed with Mr. Ford’s comments and wants
to see more of the green space and the community aspect. Mr. Clark stated he went out
and looked at the property and has received calls over the past months regarding the state
of the property. He felt anything put on the property would be an improvement over
what is there now. He stated he agreed with the alley recommendation. Mrs. Fidler said
alleys work well in Fairhope and for Public Works. Mr. Baker stated they are not
changing the depth of the lots and 10 or 15 feet could be taken off each side for an alley.
Mrs. Wilson stated the Commission is open-minded so that something can be done there
and the restrictions could even be similar to Quail Creek Villas, where the lots are small
but they are neat. Mr. Charles asked if green space could be added in the high density
area to relive some of the pressure and Mr. Sankey said they could look at moving some
of the green space around. Mr. Ford asked if this development would jeopardize the
prime area surrounding it because of the small lots and state more information is needed.
Mrs. Wilson wants to see the type of houses and what look they are going for. Mr. Smith
stated the overall PUD density is not changing; they are just pushing the area together.
Old/New Business
Medical Overlay District –Jonathan Smith. Mr. Smith stated the Committee would be
meeting on Wednesday, October 6th.
Having no further business, Bob Clark moved to adjourn and was 2nd by Lee Turner.
Motion passed unanimously and the meeting was duly adjourned at 5:39 pm.
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Jean Wilson, Chairperson Emily Boyett, Secretary